VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

Old dog said:

No but all of this is building up to it and choices made along the way.
The only difference in opinion will be that I don't think Sophia will sleep with every person that she meets in the game.

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But she will sleep with some of the shittiest ones due to Patreons whining about what they want to see, regardless if it makes sense plot-wise or not....

While I never defended this game, I don't attack it either for being slow... I take it for what it is... L&P made Sophia super prudish to the point of a caricature... unless you do deep into Amish country, you'd struggle to find a woman like her.

So the fact that he announced what "fetishes" the game will have when completed I saw 1-3 that don't make a lick of sense to me based on her character... Sophia is well developed (hasn't really had much character growth, but we KNOW her)... Multiple times she has said she isn't attracted to black guys... yet mother f'n BBC is listed in the list of future fetishes...

How ? Why ? How does a prudish woman that gets mad for men giving her innocent compliments out of fucking nowhere in the span of 30 days (the time frame for the entire game) go from not being attracted to a physical trait (skin color), to worshiping it ? That's like me not liking fat women saying next month how fucking gorgeous I think Melissa McCarthy is, and how I would sex her into oblivion... just wtf...

Also before someone mentions the cursed word "optional", I dont give a fuck if its optional... I want a good story, you cant derail a story to satisfy a vocal minority... Even optional content needs to make fucking sense... Otherwise why not throw fat aliens in the game out of nowhere to fuck Sophia ? or some tentacle monster ? Or have the family get a pet dog, and have Sophia fuck it despite never saying she is into bestiality ?

Rythan25 said:

But she will sleep with some of the shittiest ones due to Patreons whining about what they want to see, regardless if it makes sense plot-wise or not....

While I never defended this game, I don't attack it either for being slow... I take it for what it is... L&P made Sophia super prudish to the point of a caricature... unless you do deep into Amish country, you'd struggle to find a woman like her.

So the fact that he announced what "fetishes" the game will have when completed I saw 1-3 that don't make a lick of sense to me based on her character... Sophia is well developed (hasn't really had much character growth, but we KNOW her)... Multiple times she has said she isn't attracted to black guys... yet mother f'n BBC is listed in the list of future fetishes...

How ? Why ? How does a prudish woman that gets mad for men giving her innocent compliments out of fucking nowhere in the span of 30 days (the time frame for the entire game) go from not being attracted to a physical trait (skin color), to worshiping it ? That's like me not liking fat women saying next month how fucking gorgeous I think Melissa McCarthy is, and how I would sex her into oblivion... just wtf...

Also before someone mentions the cursed word "optional", I dont give a fuck if its optional... I want a good story, you cant derail a story to satisfy a vocal minority... Even optional content needs to make fucking sense... Otherwise why not throw fat aliens in the game out of nowhere to fuck Sophia ? or some tentacle monster ? Or have the family get a pet dog, and have Sophia fuck it despite never saying she is into bestiality ?

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I assume you're a paying Patreon and this is why you're complaining that the game doesn't fit your desires? If so, probably more productive to express your opinion over there.

Don't understand you on options. If Aliens are in the game with one optional path and you aren't forced to take it and thus it never exists in your game world as you play, why do you care? I don't care for incest with her son, but since I don't have to take that path I don't care if others have the option.

As for her being super prudish to the point of not being at all realistic, I'd counter with she's MUCH more realistic than most women in these types of games. We know a LOT more women in real life in their 30s or 40s who grew up in our society where girls are constantly being taught sex is "naughty" and who suppress any feelings of attraction to other women. My wife has talked to a LOT of women who she has to convince that attraction to other women is probably more normal than not. We know at least one woman who decided to try out her G/G fantasy with a woman she met online and then felt incredibly guilty after and had to be assured it was OK. Ever wonder why, in our society, a man who loves sex and has sex with a lot of women is considered a "stud" and a woman who does the exact same thing is called a "slut?"

The more options a game like this has the better. If someone wants to pay and commission someone to create a game that only meets their desires cool. Otherwise, unless you are forced to take a path that makes the character do something you don't like - just don't do it. Her world is what you make it and the other paths don't exist in your game world if you don't take them.

Rythan25 said:

But she will sleep with some of the shittiest ones due to Patreons whining about what they want to see, regardless if it makes sense plot-wise or not....

While I never defended this game, I don't attack it either for being slow... I take it for what it is... L&P made Sophia super prudish to the point of a caricature... unless you do deep into Amish country, you'd struggle to find a woman like her.

So the fact that he announced what "fetishes" the game will have when completed I saw 1-3 that don't make a lick of sense to me based on her character... Sophia is well developed (hasn't really had much character growth, but we KNOW her)... Multiple times she has said she isn't attracted to black guys... yet mother f'n BBC is listed in the list of future fetishes...

How ? Why ? How does a prudish woman that gets mad for men giving her innocent compliments out of fucking nowhere in the span of 30 days (the time frame for the entire game) go from not being attracted to a physical trait (skin color), to worshiping it ? That's like me not liking fat women saying next month how fucking gorgeous I think Melissa McCarthy is, and how I would sex her into oblivion... just wtf...

Also before someone mentions the cursed word "optional", I dont give a fuck if its optional... I want a good story, you cant derail a story to satisfy a vocal minority... Even optional content needs to make fucking sense... Otherwise why not throw fat aliens in the game out of nowhere to fuck Sophia ? or some tentacle monster ? Or have the family get a pet dog, and have Sophia fuck it despite never saying she is into bestiality ?

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To be fair to Janitor Clark, he's actually one of the most popular male characters (8th), just behind Aiden in the latest results of the poll.

Then again, we don't actually know who will end up having the opportunity to sleep with Sophia. Even for Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia it's only assumed. It would of course be dumb if at least Dylan, Sam and Ellie didn't have the chance, but we've no actual information on how or when.

I am at least looking at it this way: whether or not you play it, Liam got the first kissing in. Then Dylan got the insidious kiss, then frenching with Patricia, then Ellie. We can find out from Liam that Sophia likes oral. Then she tells Ellie. Presumably Dylan and Sam will find out some time down the track.

So there's a progression that L&P appears to favour. I believe morning day 12 is the next GW event. Since there is an Ellie event at that time too, I suspect the GW event to be a sex scene that those on the Ellie route will need to skip. And there we'll find the next step.

I'm looking at it this way. Even if sex with say Clark, Aiden or Bennett will be in the game eventually, it's going to be so far down the track it's not worth worrying about. Like playable day 25 or something.

So I’ve trying to forget this game and thread for a couple of weeks, didn’t really work as it is still the best game in town. Not a lot has changed; just a bit progress on the update and dozens more forum pages. Then again, update is about 2 weeks away I’d say. We all like the updates to come sooner, but quality beats quantity every day. L&zo, not sure if you are ever here, but keep it up mate

marcomonte said:

So I’ve trying to forget this game and thread for a couple of weeks, didn’t really work as it is still the best game in town. Not a lot has changed; just a bit progress on the update and dozens more forum pages. Then again, update is about 2 weeks away I’d say. We all like the updates to come sooner, but quality beats quantity every day. L&zo, not sure if you are ever here, but keep it up mate

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Last time L&P was here was a little over 2 weeks ago

I've never seen such a simple porn game so over-analyzed. The developer is just some guy with DAZ 3D and a computer using models, backgrounds and objects someone else created. He ain't Elon Musk.
We oughta take bets on guessing the page count we'll be up to before the developer completes the next update. I'll take a wild stab and say that we'll be up to 2100 pages of posts here before the next update? Any other guesses? We're on page 1922 now.

Mr.Gamer said:

Dunno about 2100 pages before the next update but what's with Elon musk and L&P?
Also I don't see your point in that statement.

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Mr Gamer - Just saying that this developer is just another guy making a game to make a few bucks. Nothing wrong with that, but he is not Leonardo Da Vinci or Nicholai Tesla either and doesn't merit the level of over-analysis displayed on this thread. At the end of the day, it's probably just because people are bored...

Mr.Gamer said:

Dunno about 2100 pages before the next update but what's with Elon musk and L&P?
Also I don't see your point in that statement.

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Forgive him mate, I think he meant Albert Einstein

RChandler said:

On the GW vs. FW: I agree that my guess is 99% of people play FW because they want more erotic options with others, etc. and they assume that's the way to get it. We certainly play that route. Midlife Crisis takes an interesting approach on this: you can easily stay true to your wife at the same time you help her become your accomplice, which is the hottest path IMO.

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I already wrote years ago how a GW route could lead to endless possibilities of sex but the Dev isn't smart enough for that.
He made the GW route boring and so no one wants the GW route.

RChandler said:

As for her being super prudish to the point of not being at all realistic, I'd counter with she's MUCH more realistic than most women in these types of games. We know a LOT more women in real life in their 30s or 40s who grew up in our society where girls are constantly being taught sex is "naughty" and who suppress any feelings of attraction to other women. My wife has talked to a LOT of women who she has to convince that attraction to other women is probably more normal than not. We know at least one woman who decided to try out her G/G fantasy with a woman she met online and then felt incredibly guilty after and had to be assured it was OK. Ever wonder why, in our society, a man who loves sex and has sex with a lot of women is considered a "stud" and a woman who does the exact same thing is called a "slut?"

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There is only one problem with that: The dev is German and we are kinda the opposite of prudes.
What you are seeing in Sophias behaviour is a caricature how quite some Germans would describe American women.

RChandler said:

The more options a game like this has the better. If someone wants to pay and commission someone to create a game that only meets their desires cool. Otherwise, unless you are forced to take a path that makes the character do something you don't like - just don't do it. Her world is what you make it and the other paths don't exist in your game world if you don't take them.

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One problem with the game is how the paths won't converge.
There is no reason why a GW path couldn't incorporate action with other women or couples. But that will never ever happen because other people are strictly on the FW path.

That is simply lazy and most importantly boring.

Mr Killer D said:

Forgive him mate, I think he meant Albert Einstein

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Or maybe Burt Rutan. I want whatever that guy is on. Have you seen the ?

EDIT: Not going to speak for anyone else, but yeah, most of the over-analysis I do is out of boredom

Blockout said:

One problem with the game is how the paths won't converge.
There is no reason why a GW path couldn't incorporate action with other women or couples. But that will never ever happen because other people are strictly on the FW path.

That is simply lazy and most importantly boring.

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The possibility of a FFM GW Threesome has already been confirmed. That's the entire point of being able to collect Lesbian Temptation points with characters like Nathalie and Vicky, that aren't on the Filthy route

Alley_Cat said:

Or maybe Burt Rutan. I want whatever that guy is on. Have you seen the

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I've..

shakus-gravus said:

Mr Gamer - Just saying that this developer is just another guy making a game to make a few bucks. Nothing wrong with that, but he is not Leonardo Da Vinci or Nicholai Tesla either and doesn't merit the level of over-analysis displayed on this thread. At the end of the day, it's probably just because people are bored...

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What's with you..? , did you smoke weed....?

I'm looking forward to when version 0.100 is ready to download?

mirian said:

I'm looking forward to when version 0.100 is ready to download?

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Haven't you see the thread's name....?
You can see A Wife And Mother 0.100 in it when the next version is ready to download..

shakus-gravus said:

I've never seen such a simple porn game so over-analyzed. The developer is just some guy with DAZ 3D and a computer using models, backgrounds and objects someone else created. He ain't Elon Musk.
We oughta take bets on guessing the page count we'll be up to before the developer completes the next update. I'll take a wild stab and say that we'll be up to 2100 pages of posts here before the next update? Any other guesses? We're on page 1922 now.

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Lol so true. No game has more drama surrounding it for no reason beyond the devs comically slow update schedule causing all to speculate on exactly how and why they'll hate it in 9 years (2 updates from now). It's so funny.

shakus-gravus said:

I've never seen such a simple porn game so over-analyzed. The developer is just some guy with DAZ 3D and a computer using models, backgrounds and objects someone else created. He ain't Elon Musk.
We oughta take bets on guessing the page count we'll be up to before the developer completes the next update. I'll take a wild stab and say that we'll be up to 2100 pages of posts here before the next update? Any other guesses? We're on page 1922 now.

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You're not wrong, this thread is "constant" and I've never understood why people keep posting the same things and am more talking about the complainers. There are some legit fans of the game who like to discuss AWAM a lot and that is what thread is for, but wow, the complainers, never understood there constant need to analyze and post there negativity.

no progress today

codex35 said:

no progress today

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Probably just finishing off the rendering. It's a little hard to work on Photoshop without a rendered image after all. But he can still work on P&T while rendering.

By far this was one of the worst I have played. Terrible story. No decents sex scenes, many missed opportunities for a perv.
Waste of time

Herodias69 said:

By far this was one of the worst I have played. Terrible story. No decents sex scenes, many missed opportunities for a perv.
Waste of time

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Lord, forgive him, he does not know what he is saying!

Herodias69 said:

By far this was one of the worst I have played. Terrible story. No decents sex scenes, many missed opportunities for a perv.
Waste of time

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oh look, another account with very little activity trying to stir up trouble again in here, this happens a lot in here.