bad writing in episode 11

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Not a single bait post out of your 100,000 posts will ever be good.

@gianni did you fully read my post before replying?

Mar 15, 12:11 PM

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this show never has any writing it's just cool fights back to back . if you expect writing , this ain't the place brotha

Mar 15, 12:17 PM

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More for the second point.

Only the perspective of the Korean Hunters are being broadcasted with a 10 minute delay.
The outside world does not know of Japan’s casualties.

Jinwoo never planned to go because he wanted to spend time with his mom. He thought that they could handle everything.

By the time the broadcast caught up to the Korean Hunter’s getting washed, he realized he had to get involved because they were going to die.

It is NOT bad writing.

Mar 15, 12:23 PM

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More for the second point.

Only the perspective of the Korean Hunters are being broadcasted with a 10 minute delay.
The outside world does not know of Japan’s casualties.

Jinwoo never planned to go because he wanted to spend time with his mom. He thought that they could handle everything.

By the time the broadcast caught up to the Korean Hunter’s getting washed, he realized he had to get involved because they were going to die.

It is NOT bad writing.

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SoupandSalad404 said:
More for the second point.

Only the perspective of the Korean Hunters are being broadcasted with a 10 minute delay.
The outside world does not know of Japan’s casualties.

Jinwoo never planned to go because he wanted to spend time with his mom. He thought that they could handle everything.

By the time the broadcast caught up to the Korean Hunter’s getting washed, he realized he had to get involved because they were going to die.

It is NOT bad writing.

It is pretty bad writing, because he can communicate with his shadows all the time. He does not need a broadcast. Heck he isn't even watching the broadcast.. he is sitting on a f-ing roof....

Mar 15, 12:24 PM

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A character being not how you want it to be has nothing to do with writing

It's called nuance

bruh

Mar 15, 12:24 PM

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SoupandSalad404 said:
More for the second point.

Only the perspective of the Korean Hunters are being broadcasted with a 10 minute delay.
The outside world does not know of Japan’s casualties.

Jinwoo never planned to go because he wanted to spend time with his mom. He thought that they could handle everything.

By the time the broadcast caught up to the Korean Hunter’s getting washed, he realized he had to get involved because they were going to die.

It is NOT bad writing.

True also why do these people keep hating like just watch it or don't and stop being childish and ruining it for others and also don't start threats about it cuz it just makes it worse....

Mar 15, 12:27 PM

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SoupandSalad404 said:
More for the second point.

Only the perspective of the Korean Hunters are being broadcasted with a 10 minute delay.
The outside world does not know of Japan’s casualties.

Jinwoo never planned to go because he wanted to spend time with his mom. He thought that they could handle everything.

By the time the broadcast caught up to the Korean Hunter’s getting washed, he realized he had to get involved because they were going to die.

It is NOT bad writing.

True also why do these people keep hating like just watch it or don't and stop being childish and ruining it for others and also don't start threats about it cuz it just makes it worse....

@Bexx_ wut when is mal forums became a safe space or echo chamber? whats good about mal forums is unlike the hivemind that is reddit we got a lot of opposing arguments here aka diversity of thoughts

im not a hater of this show btw i just find the arguments of the critics valid and im curious if they can be debunk with logic too

Mar 15, 12:33 PM

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@Bexx_ wut when is mal forums became a safe space or echo chamber? whats good about mal forums is unlike the hivemind that is reddit we got a lot of opposing arguments here aka diversity of thoughts

im not a hater of this show btw i just find the arguments of the critics valid and im curious if they can be debunk with logic too

deg said:
im not a hater of this show btw i just find the arguments of the critics valid and im curious if they can be debunk with logic too

You are expecting a little too much of the fanbase, as it seems they cannot even fathom your 2 paragraphs correctly, let alone counter valid criticism.

Mar 15, 12:34 PM

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of course the writing is bad, its down right terrible but its still class to watch. if you read the comic the last arc sucks but the writer was ill. the show is still good and has many great fight scenes. Just enjoy the ride.

Mar 15, 12:36 PM

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I have the exact same questions as the OP. The Japanese hunters were acting so cocky and they seemed to have the upper hand (mostly) in their spar so why did they get wiped out when the Korean hunters fought for longer and survived, barring the healer.

Unless I'm misunderstanding Sung's powers, he should be able to communicate with his shadows without any delay and therefore should be able to exchange as soon as the battle went sideways. I'm okay with him not going immediately because I don't think he put shadows on the Japanese hunters but he should have been there after Hunter Cha got injured. It was taking me out of the episode, I was constantly thinking "Why tf hasn't Jinwoo teleported in and helped yet? For dramatic effect?"

Not being a hater, this is one of my favourite shows this season. I'm just curious.

Mar 15, 12:39 PM

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deg said:
im not a hater of this show btw i just find the arguments of the critics valid and im curious if they can be debunk with logic too

You are expecting a little too much of the fanbase, as it seems they cannot even fathom your 2 paragraphs correctly, let alone counter valid criticism.

@UTMAN im sure some smart fanboys will show up sooner or later they always do even if a thread gets so shit sometimes

Mar 15, 12:44 PM

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I have the exact same questions as the OP. The Japanese hunters were acting so cocky and they seemed to have the upper hand (mostly) in their spar so why did they get wiped out when the Korean hunters fought for longer and survived, barring the healer.

Unless I'm misunderstanding Sung's powers, he should be able to communicate with his shadows without any delay and therefore should be able to exchange as soon as the battle went sideways. I'm okay with him not going immediately because I don't think he put shadows on the Japanese hunters but he should have been there after Hunter Cha got injured. It was taking me out of the episode, I was constantly thinking "Why tf hasn't Jinwoo teleported in and helped yet? For dramatic effect?"

Not being a hater, this is one of my favourite shows this season. I'm just curious.

SamuelPapprill said:
I have the exact same questions as the OP. The Japanese hunters were acting so cocky and they seemed to have the upper hand (mostly) in their spar so why did they get wiped out when the Korean hunters fought for longer and survived, barring the healer.

I think the reason here is that the Japanese separated themselves into a 4 groups, 3 -3 man group, and a 1 two man group. If they were together in a 11, it think they could possibly be more effective.

SamuelPapprill said:
Unless I'm misunderstanding Sung's powers, he should be able to communicate with his shadows without any delay and therefore should be able to exchange as soon as the battle went sideways. I'm okay with him not going immediately because I don't think he put shadows on the Japanese hunters but he should have been there after Hunter Cha got injured. It was taking me out of the episode, I was constantly thinking "Why tf hasn't Jinwoo teleported in and helped yet? For dramatic effect?"

Not being a hater, this is one of my favourite shows this season. I'm just curious.

He put shadows on the Japanese hunters. IF you watch the previous episode he mentioned that he could put shadows on the Japanese hutners after the brawl. So the moment the popsicle girl Died, the shadow in her should have alerted him. BUT even if the girl did not have, the half naked dude definitely had shadow on him.

Mar 15, 12:52 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

Your argument is correct. I will try to answer it with my own perspective after putting anime logic and specially action anime logic in mind.

First is that the ant king is beheading Japanese hunters faster than korean. I think you are not understanding one thing here. what good comes in saving a side character. Now i don't mean korean hunters were not side characters. You need to understand anime logic with this argument. The main characters were not beheaded even though ant king had a chance to do it. So why he didn't, because they were main character or had more to do in upcoming story. From what I can see, it's a baseless argument. Ant king beheaded everyone in sight. We didn't get to see every hunter so how can we say the ant king was bias towards korean. The writer didn't write anything more for the healer so he died and maybe to make us feel a little sympathy also because they were developing his character in previous episodes.

Your second argument is valid. He could have gone faster if he wanted to. He knew everything that was going on there through his soliders. But again it's anime. Author wanted the fight to continue without jinwoo to show us how weak other hunters are in front of this ant and to give us a pretty amazing fight. We can now get a rough measure of ant king's power. So yeah that's my perspective on it.

And about bad writing thing. I won't call it bad writing. It's action anime not a story focused anime. So take it that way

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Mar 15, 12:59 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

Your argument is correct. I will try to answer it with my own perspective after putting anime logic and specially action anime logic in mind.

First is that the ant king is beheading Japanese hunters faster than korean. I think you are not understanding one thing here. what good comes in saving a side character. Now i don't mean korean hunters were not side characters. You need to understand anime logic with this argument. The main characters were not beheaded even though ant king had a chance to do it. So why he didn't, because they were main character or had more to do in upcoming story. From what I can see, it's a baseless argument. Ant king beheaded everyone in sight. We didn't get to see every hunter so how can we say the ant king was bias towards korean. The writer didn't write anything more for the healer so he died and maybe to make us feel a little sympathy also because they were developing his character in previous episodes.

Your second argument is valid. He could have gone faster if he wanted to. He knew everything that was going on there through his soliders. But again it's anime. Author wanted the fight to continue without jinwoo to show us how weak other hunters are in front of this ant and to give us a pretty amazing fight. We can now get a rough measure of ant king's power. So yeah that's my perspective on it.

And about bad writing thing. I won't call it bad writing. It's action anime not a story focused anime. So take it that way

@Otaku_guru nah i understand it good what you explain or describe is simply called plot armor and the korean hunters have plot armor

also im not the one that came up with this bad writing criticisms i just read them on others comments

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deg said:
@UTMAN im sure some smart fanboys will show up sooner or later they always do even if a thread gets so shit sometimes

Haters will always exist, that's a fact. Just like defenders of what the haters are throwing mud at.
And to be honest, I am very tired of you haters. I understand perfectly well that everyone has their own personal opinion, but God give me strength, if I ever meet any of you in real life, I will hit you with all my might on the spot.

Mar 15, 1:03 PM

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deg said:
@UTMAN im sure some smart fanboys will show up sooner or later they always do even if a thread gets so shit sometimes

Haters will always exist, that's a fact. Just like defenders of what the haters are throwing mud at.
And to be honest, I am very tired of you haters. I understand perfectly well that everyone has their own personal opinion, but God give me strength, if I ever meet any of you in real life, I will hit you with all my might on the spot.

@Gonryo_Spectrum did you even read my replies here? im no hater or you are one of those new users wanting mal forums to become a safe space, echo chamber, hive mind like reddit?

and good job wanting to physically harm someone just from watching cartoons

Mar 15, 1:06 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

It ain’t that bad man, like if u complain about things like “oh why didn’t he behead him instead of him” or “why didn’t sung Jin woo come earlier” it don’t gotta be perfect logic in every piece of fiction. Sometimes a show can be this way for the simple fact that it is more enjoyable the simpler it is. Not everything needs to be perfectly realistic, it takes away from the fantasy elements. Makes things less cinematic, and at the end of the day it’s a simple story, meant to make u feel the hype in these moments. They can’t just kill everyone off right here but the author wanted to make it a dire moment. People nit pick and hate cuz they believe themselves to be above everyone else literary ability and preference. Everyone is and elitist nowadays and it ruins the enjoyment for people who just wanna watch something for fun.

Mar 15, 1:07 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

The ant prince is evolving. He went for direct kill like a monster at first but seeing the queen's body he's enraged and making them suffer. He even completely ignore the tank, going past him. As for Sung Jinwoo he's not wanting to be a hero and neither is he the shounen protag who wants to help everyone and save the world. If anything the anime so far has very clearly shown he's works for his interest and cares very little about other affairs.

People calling these bad writing aren't paying attention in the first place.

Mar 15, 1:08 PM

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deg said:
@Otaku_guru nah i understand it good what you explain or describe is simply called plot armor and the korean hunters have plot armor

also im not the one that came up with this bad writing criticisms i just read them on others comments

Then I think they are probably new to anime if they were arguing on these matters. Now a days lots of kids are watching anime and specially solo leveling. You must have heard that episode 9 got 1k+ dislikes. why? because jinwoo cried in it after saving his mother. I mean come on bro, he's is human not a emotion less beast and this scene was one of the best in ep 9 and kids think crying reduced his aura or something like that. So pay no attention to things like this and answer them if you must

Mar 15, 1:12 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

The ant prince is evolving. He went for direct kill like a monster at first but seeing the queen's body he's enraged and making them suffer. He even completely ignore the tank, going past him. As for Sung Jinwoo he's not wanting to be a hero and neither is he the shounen protag who wants to help everyone and save the world. If anything the anime so far has very clearly shown he's works for his interest and cares very little about other affairs.

People calling these bad writing aren't paying attention in the first place.

@MegamiRem those are good enough reasons but i find them weak myself considering the ant king never tortured them enough if that is what he is going for and jinwoo not being heroic defeats the purpose of him being a hero of the double dungeon incident but still good enough reasons

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

About the first one, the ant saw his dead mother, as revenge he could have wanted them to suffer, so could have purposely avoided lethal attacks.
About the second one, Jinwoo was probably following the broadcast like others mentioned or the second option is that he acted based on his shadows' movement. In both cases, it's clear why he's late.

Mar 15, 1:13 PM

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one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer

Because the Korean side had an S-Rank healer with them and wasn't as taken off guard as the others. They were a big, coordinated team while the others were mostly teams of 2.

second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

Because Jinwoo didn't want to go, he said as much already. He was sure they could handle it, but as far as I remember he found out that things were going to hell due to his planted soldiers and that's exactly when he decided to step in.

Even if I'm getting some details wrong, I still see nothing so terribly written that it warrants a whole post. 95% of shounen animes have much worse writing when it comes to things being logical, it's not like SL would even stand out through this.

Mar 15, 1:17 PM

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@MegamiRem those are good enough reasons but i find them weak myself considering the ant king never tortured them enough if that is what he is going for and jinwoo not being heroic defeats the purpose of him being a hero of the double dungeon incident but still good enough reasons

@deg What do you mean by "hero of the double dungeon incident"?

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@deg What do you mean by "hero of the double dungeon incident"?

@Vedrun err the first episodes of season 1?

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@MegamiRem those are good enough reasons but i find them weak myself considering the ant king never tortured them enough if that is what he is going for and jinwoo not being heroic defeats the purpose of him being a hero of the double dungeon incident but still good enough reasons

nah, he didn't want to torture them. He was playing with them. As for the death of healer, ant killed him because he would be problematic if he keeps healing others. Healers are naturally first target of every intelligent enemy. Ant king's real aim was to kill their (humans) king. His all rage is focused on killing humans king not soliders as he also mentioned after seeing the queen's dead body

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Firstly the ant king is pissed at the Korean hunters and didn't kill them instantly because his intentions were to torture them. Because they killed their queen. Death is too easy and he wanted them to suffer more before their death. And for why he killed the healer is because he was ruining the torture he was inflicting upon them by healing them and was a nuisance to him.

Secondly jinwoo wasn't watching the stream and didn't know up until hunter Cha got hit. That's when he got the "message" from his shadow solider. And in the Manhua the fight between the Korean hunters and the ant king was very short lived it happened so fast. The anime kinda prolonged it to make our watching experience good. But still you have to remember that it was a short lived fight. It might be the only "bad writing" and probably could have been done better. And when the ant king went out to fight Goto that's when jinwoo shows up. The anime ends there. The ants were there right after the ant king left.

Mar 15, 1:23 PM

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@MegamiRem those are good enough reasons but i find them weak myself considering the ant king never tortured them enough if that is what he is going for and jinwoo not being heroic defeats the purpose of him being a hero of the double dungeon incident but still good enough reasons

nah, he didn't want to torture them. He was playing with them. As for the death of healer, ant killed him because he would be problematic if he keeps healing others. Healers are naturally first target of every intelligent enemy. Ant king's real aim was to kill their (humans) king. His all rage is focused on killing humans king not soliders as he also mentioned after seeing the queen's dead body

@Otaku_guru he was playing with them but he is not playing with the japanese hunters and kills them fast, a beheaded hunter cannot be healed afaik so why not behead them fast like the japanese hunters? his main focus is killing the human king? again did you see how he killed the japanese hunters?

Mar 15, 1:24 PM

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another rage bait oh god

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Firstly the ant king is pissed at the Korean hunters and didn't kill them instantly because his intentions were to torture them. Because they killed their queen. Death is too easy and he wanted them to suffer more before their death. And for why he killed the healer is because he was ruining the torture he was inflicting upon them by healing them and was a nuisance to him.

Secondly jinwoo wasn't watching the stream and didn't know up until hunter Cha got hit. That's when he got the "message" from his shadow solider. And in the Manhua the fight between the Korean hunters and the ant king was very short lived it happened so fast. The anime kinda prolonged it to make our watching experience good. But still you have to remember that it was a short lived fight. It might be the only "bad writing" and probably could have been done better. And when the ant king went out to fight Goto that's when jinwoo shows up. The anime ends there. The ants were there right after the ant king left.

@Rezwan1024 if he really wants to torture them then a slow painful torture is the sweetest but clearly he did not do that still good enough reason

as for jinwoo his shadow soldiers are part of the japanese hunters too afaik heck even if his shadow soldiers are only with the korean hunters or just only cha then why not go rescue cha fast and do the teleport right away

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deg said:
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

There's no bad writing here, just dense viewers...

- The ant king wants to kill the invader's "king" as revenge for the ant queen's death. After Goto's death he went back to devour the Korean team. He wasn't planing on leaving anyone alive. He just started with the strongest meal first.
- Jinwoo can't see what the shadows see, he gets that skill later. He was watching the broadcasting on TV and that was 10 mins behind. When he realized there was a problem he smashed the TV, went outside of the apartment to do exchange. He didn't want to worry his mom.

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another rage bait oh god

@Gray_eminence is any criticism thread around here gonna be called rage bait by you new users that wants this forum to be another reddit with hive mind, safe space and echo chamber characteristics?

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deg said:
@Otaku_guru he was playing with them but he is not playing with the japanese hunters and kills them fast, a beheaded hunter cannot be healed afaik so why not behead them fast like the japanese hunters? his main focus is killing the human king? again did you see how he killed the japanese hunters?

I know the problem here. I do understand you also know the answer but sometimes you want to discuss things like this. You are trying to find realistic logic in anime or the person who wrote this criticism. The only answer to your question is plot armour. they are main characters, Nothing less or more. if anyone wants to find logic in anime, specifically in action anime then you are at wrong place.

Secondly, we don't know the full extent of jinwoo's connection with shadows. Do we know for sure that he can see what his soliders see? Maybe he didn't know until he saw broadcast? we don't know yet. we will have to wait for tthat answer

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SoupandSalad404 said:
More for the second point.

Only the perspective of the Korean Hunters are being broadcasted with a 10 minute delay.
The outside world does not know of Japan’s casualties.

Jinwoo never planned to go because he wanted to spend time with his mom. He thought that they could handle everything.

By the time the broadcast caught up to the Korean Hunter’s getting washed, he realized he had to get involved because they were going to die.

It is NOT bad writing.

It is pretty bad writing, because he can communicate with his shadows all the time. He does not need a broadcast. Heck he isn't even watching the broadcast.. he is sitting on a f-ing roof....

@UTMAN We don't fully know the extent of how well he can communicate with his shadows though. During the Demon Castle arc he sent out his shadows to search for the floor key, but the only form of communication he got back was when his mana dropped due to their deaths. We have never been shown any long range communication at this point of this story at all. We're showed that his soldiers can live in peoples shadows and he intends to save people that are in those shadows, but that doesn't mean that he could talk or see through those shadows. As far as I can tell, the only thing he is able to detect is the locations of each shadow and which/when they are killed.

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deg said:
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

There's no bad writing here, just dense viewers...

- The ant king wants to kill the invader's "king" as revenge for the ant queen's death. After Goto's death he went back to devour the Korean team. He wasn't planing on leaving anyone alive. He just started with the strongest meal first.
- Jinwoo can't see what the shadows see, he gets that skill later. He was watching the broadcasting on TV and that was 10 mins behind. When he realized there was a problem he smashed the TV, went outside of the apartment to do exchange. He didn't want to worry his mom.

@Yaggamy those are good enough reasons too but i still find them weak too like clearly the ant king is so angry with the ant queen being killed there so in average human emotional reaction he should have killed cha fast or torture her slowly the most to get the sweetest revenge as for jinwoo there is no foreshadowing of that except that anime only fans can have an educated guess that the shadow soldiers can alarm jinwoo at any time heck we saw on old episodes even without shadow exchange of jinwoo he can still feel if his shadow soldiers are harmed still good enough reasons too

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At first his top priority was stopping the signal jamming from the japs but after they killed the queen he wanted vengeance, he also thought (correctly) that the swarm of ants was going to clean up the injured hunters and he could focus 100% on finding the "king"

Mar 15, 1:41 PM

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deg said:
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer

That question got answered by the black ant, it said that killing them doesn't make up for the dead queen, but it probably killed the healer because he wanted the others to suffer.

Mar 15, 1:52 PM

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deg said:
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer

That question got answered by the black ant, it said that killing them doesn't make up for the dead queen, but it probably killed the healer because he wanted the others to suffer.

@Zarutaku ye already mentioned earlier that the ant king wants to kill the human king instead but he has no problem prioritizing killing the japanese hunters in a fast beheaded fashion still thats a good enough reason even if its a weak reason

Mar 15, 1:56 PM

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SamuelPapprill said:
I have the exact same questions as the OP. The Japanese hunters were acting so cocky and they seemed to have the upper hand (mostly) in their spar so why did they get wiped out when the Korean hunters fought for longer and survived, barring the healer.

Unless I'm misunderstanding Sung's powers, he should be able to communicate with his shadows without any delay and therefore should be able to exchange as soon as the battle went sideways. I'm okay with him not going immediately because I don't think he put shadows on the Japanese hunters but he should have been there after Hunter Cha got injured. It was taking me out of the episode, I was constantly thinking "Why tf hasn't Jinwoo teleported in and helped yet? For dramatic effect?"

Not being a hater, this is one of my favourite shows this season. I'm just curious.

I think the black ant killed the japanese hunter cuz they were stronger and was expecting one of them to be the human king, you can see the ant just ignores the korean fighters for a little to see his dead mother, and they didnt possesed much of a threat to him he mostly just did some quick work of them and only killed?? the healer since he is the one he considered a threat since beeing able to constantly heal the other was a hussle, and as soon as that was done the black ant has gone for the japanese hunter leader

Mar 15, 1:57 PM

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I thought about it since the female hunter got decapitated last episode. I’m sure next episode they will show what happened with Sung on the mainland during that melee. To me, it’s the only thing that makes sense and will fill in the gaps. I also thought he should know when his shadows returned once the hosts were dead. I think the writing will catch up to expectations next week.

Mar 15, 1:59 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

Aight so, the Korean hunters didn’t get beheaded because the queen died. The ant king wants revenge by killing their king so he basically punished the Korean hunters by severely injuring them so the ants can finish the job. The ant king beheaded the healer because he could let the hunters fight basically infinitely.
As for Jin-Woo, he comes into action now because he technically only just saw the hunters in trouble and fighting for their lives so hard that the shadow soldiers had to step in. He figured that all the S-ranks could take back Jeju island on their own but because of the king ant, they can’t.

Ig I can kinda get why you didn’t understand the first one but the one from Jin-Woo was just you not paying enough attention to the show ig

Mar 15, 2:03 PM

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Why is people always acting like Jinwoo has to go? This guy wasnt a S-rank like 2 weeks ago and they were already decided to go Jeju, this is not his problem and no one can blame him for this. If you think this his mission or something as a S-rank you really didnt understand anything about what "hunter" means. Btw anime kinda remove this but Jinwoo is kinda a narsist character, in 6 ep he purposly wait for the Kihoon to beat up by Kargalgan so he can be more like a savior and novel literally writing this but like a said anime never adding this stuff.

Mar 15, 2:03 PM

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anime cut all the scenes
sl anime = 🚮

Mar 15, 2:03 PM

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deg said:
so ye the critics and not calling them outright haters are saying there are 2 major bad writing on this episode
one is the ant king beheads fast the japanese hunters while he did not behead the korean hunters except for the healer
second is why jinwoo decides to be a hero so late when there are many deaths already should he be more of a hero if he shows up soon or shows up from the very beginning of the mission so no one should have died?

so any counter answers to this bad writing claims because to me i do not have any i just go with suspension of disbelief and know that this show is about rule of cool mainly anyway

Aight so, the Korean hunters didn’t get beheaded because the queen died. The ant king wants revenge by killing their king so he basically punished the Korean hunters by severely injuring them so the ants can finish the job. The ant king beheaded the healer because he could let the hunters fight basically infinitely.
As for Jin-Woo, he comes into action now because he technically only just saw the hunters in trouble and fighting for their lives so hard that the shadow soldiers had to step in. He figured that all the S-ranks could take back Jeju island on their own but because of the king ant, they can’t.

Ig I can kinda get why you didn’t understand the first one but the one from Jin-Woo was just you not paying enough attention to the show ig

@NIKO69NL if youre gonna be so sure about me not paying attention you could have read my old replies on the same argument you made though

anyway again we know from old episodes that jinwoo even without shadow exchange knows very well if his shadow soldiers are in danger or what their current status are and he have shadow soldiers for every s rank hunters on this mission so the moment cha got hit he knows the shadow soldier of cha is alarmed too

and about the priority of the ant king again sure good enough reason but still weak considering we saw how the japanese hunters besides goto the suppose human king got instantly beheaded again

Mar 15, 2:05 PM

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