No Game No Life (light novel)
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Jun 4, 2014 12:38 PM
#101
So, Sora and Shiro aren't blood related. |
Jun 4, 2014 12:39 PM
#102
jesus, this episode was so good. It was a complete mind blown of sora... |
Jun 4, 2014 12:39 PM
#103
What an episode! I do believe, however, that Shiro and Sora's win was just impossible unlike the rest of the games that were played. How could Shiro possibly know where to put the pieces? Even if we assume she figured out how Sora positioned everything because she knew how Sora would play, how could Sora manipulate every move played from the beginning of the game? Eh. I don't know what to think of it. Oh well, it's just an anime |
Jun 4, 2014 12:41 PM
#104
SORA is back :) They are on their side now. They got this in the bag |
Jun 4, 2014 12:42 PM
#105
Kitoge said: How could Shiro possibly know where to put the pieces? Actually on the LN they saw the board before Shiro started to put the peaces... the anime was forced to shorten the story |
Personal tastes are like peoples behinds, each one has its own, and only those who wants to find [...] will smell one another. |
Jun 4, 2014 12:42 PM
#106
Just when I thought the JoJo-style asspulls can't get more magnificient than episode 6 had... |
Jun 4, 2014 12:44 PM
#107
I think this could have been explained a bit better, but this was certainly a unique way to get someone on your side and to get their memories, and their possible elf girlfriend. So I guess the actual game with the Eastern Empire will be coming up in the next episode. |
Jun 4, 2014 12:45 PM
#108
DarkMoonWolf said: Kitoge said: How could Shiro possibly know where to put the pieces? Actually on the LN they saw the board before Shiro started to put the peaces... the anime was forced to shorten the story Oh okay...actually wait...how'd they see the board then? I thought a spell was made to conceal it from them? |
Jun 4, 2014 12:49 PM
#109
Jun 4, 2014 12:52 PM
#110
Botato said: You're welcome. It was an amusing read though, kinda surprised you made it this far into the show. Nah, the show isn't Mars of Destruction or SAO lvl bad x.x. Hell this show is actually pretty fucking entertaining to watch if i had to rated it based on it's comedy i give it a 9/10. (Excluding this episode....) Thanks for actually reading it thou... i had to type that on my Andriod... not the best use of grammar right there. |
Jun 4, 2014 12:53 PM
#111
I admit this episode was rushed and needed a better explanation but it was still good nonetheless. 3/5 for this episode |
Jun 4, 2014 12:58 PM
#112
Kitoge said: Oh okay...actually wait...how'd they see the board then? I thought a spell was made to conceal it from them? Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: Shiro placed the Reversi piece engraved with [Three] in her hands. She stared at the empty space——no, staring at the invisible yet existant gameboard—— This was unfortunately a fight for 32 Reversi pieces that contains one's concept. The remaining pieces for both side were small in amount——meaning it was very important. Because they were pieces that once used would cause them to lose, they kept it. However, this rule was set—— was set by the challenged, in that case her brother. This meant that the game's advancement, even his disappearance was very meaningful. Which means——Shiro closed her eyes and thought. ——Why would her brother leave her alone? She was puzzled. However, it was definite course of action if the answer was known. The first of several very simple reasons. He would deliberately give some memories to the opponent, temporarily placing him on the side of the losing—— "....That sort of thing....Shiro...Can't do this...." Shiro made this conclusion with a sad smile after thinking for a moment. Her brother's actions, if performed by Shiro......She would definitely be unable to remain sane. Just because her brother disappeared from her side, she suspected her brother's existence. ——It was okay if she was forgotten. ——Forgetting about her brother——Shiro believed that her spirit wouldn't be able to remain normal. Shiro stared at the invisible, untouchable gameboard. The gameboard was really invisible, but—— Her brother hated sunlight, so she could discern that he wouldn't sit by the window. Her brother, whether he was sleeping or sitting, would always give Shiro the corner of the wall. Because Shiro would feel lonely if there was a wide space, her brother would always block the wide spaces for her. Although she couldn't see the gameboard, Everything was exposed to her. Her brother's habit, her brother's actions, everything related to her brother, her brother's sitting position, and even the space left for Shiro could be seen. (......Here.....Nii is....Here...) Shiro was convinced of where her brother was sitting, even if it was empty. Shiro's eye started feeling hot, but she forced herself back and continued thinking. (....After this....the second....at the same time.....the biggest....reason.) Shiro gripped the Reversi piece written with [Three], on the white side. Whether her brother is [White or black], this question was certain. Because he would always leave the last piece for [Shiro]——it was definitely white.[1] The invisible, and unknown game. She didn't have memories from the start, so she didn't know what was happening. However, her brother would deliberately lose and attain the step to allow Shiro[2] to win..... And after the opponent found out that they fell under Sora's plan and got induced to place a wrong move.... Then, reversing the position, her brother would choose the most optimal move. All of this speculation——needed three moves to win. Only this....You can do it! Shiro waved her hand downwards with confidence———— * Keng*, a sound that couldn't be identified rang in ears of the three people. Following that... "PAIN——!" "Ouch....Wh,what is going on!" Shiro, as well as Steph and Jibril held their heads, having a sudden splitting headache. Like echoes, the brain let out a murmur. The original gameboard which couldn't be seen appeared, and with a patter patter sound, the black board gradually dyed white. Then——the original memories a day and a half ago———flowed back in——— References 1 - Shiro means white in Japanese 2 - Ambiguous meaning, could mean white piece or Shiro I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: [19th. Daytime] Shiro and Sora were playing games in the throne hall. "Ahh, you've finally came, why keep me waiting?" Her brother said, gazing at the two girls in front of him. Wearing a black veil and black-haired, Kurami. And an elven girl who had conspicuously long ears and didn't bother to hide it. "....A tone as if knowing we were coming——of course....." Sora smiled and replied to Kurami's words: "Yes, I know your purpose for coming here, and anytime is possible." "Then hurry up, I must make you disappear and hand over the Imanity's chess piece." "Shiro, listen carefully." "....Un?" "I believe you." [19th. Evening].... "————Just like that Jibril. Can you do it?" Her master described an insanely terrifying game, but Jibril answered: "——Sorry, but I can't do it, such a massive game transformation——" "I didn't ask you to do it alone, you are to do it with the elven girl Kurami brought with her, okay?" Sora brought the topic to the elven girl who had not introduced herself. "...Asking me to cooperate with The Flügel? Please allow me to rightfully decline~?" "What a coincidence, I'll politely decline the invitation too~?" Sparks flew between their gazes, but Sora had a disinterested look. "Really? Then I don't accept the game, please go back okay?" Sora coldly rejected her. Kurami then said to the elven girl: "...You said you wanted to help me right?" "Of course, but to want me to work with that devil...Guuuu....Fine, I promise." ".....Nii." Hearing her brother's specified rules, Shiro nervously looked up at her brother. "Shiro, we are indispensable." [19th. Nighttime]..... Holding unto Jibril's Word connector's [Core], the elven girl complained: "This kind of elemental usage is as if you wanted to bomb the Elemental Gallery. Is your brain even normal." "I'm sorry, but the current trend is draw something out of the Elemental Gallery. It appears you long-eared people have mistaken for a bomb, next time I'll write a [Lower energy] note to her." "You all .....Who can you guys live in peace with?" "Because when I think of a certain Flügel in the war, shooting something that caused thousands of lives....Usually having a superiority complex, but to fire out [Heaven's strike], how naive." "Recognize yourself, if you had not deployed flying restriction magic, we wouldn't have cared about you, so this is your own demise. I merely swelled a package upon seeing that magic, and even if I've accidentally killed every one of you, what is wrong with it?" "Enough, both of you shut it and go back to work! Its almost a day!!" [20th. Daytime]....... "....Okay, it really exceeded a day." Sora stared at Jibril with cold eyes. While Kurami used the same kind of eyes to stare at her partner. "So, so sorryyyyyy, it's because of this long-eared girl that caused the loop to almost go out of control several of times." "Ev, everytime when she vetoed the loss of control, I had to recode everything!!" Sighing, Sora propped his hand on his cheek and said: "Nevermind, uh——then let me re-explain the rules." "...Nii." "Shiro, Nii is happy that you are worried, but rest assured. You should understand right?" "Shiro, we are bound by a [Promise]." "Shiro, we'll always win before the game starts." "——we'll get the last piece of the puzzle needed to swallow the Eastern Union." "...Un." Shiro nodded as Sora caressed her head and said: "——okay, should we begin?" [20th. Nighttime]..... "...........!" Shiro firmly held onto the shoulder of Sora's. Her left hand that was clenched firmly, pierced the skin and caused it to bleed. Looking at the scene ahead where her brother's memories, hands, legs and five senses were taken away, Shiro could only watch. Her brother believed Shiro, and Shiro in return trusted him. She could only wait. Although Steph was hesitant of stopping the game, she couldn't bear looking at that remorseful look of Shiro's. Using her hands to cover her face, she started crying. Jibril was speechless as she saw the determined face of her Masters. She widened her eyes, watching her every move. "——okay, it almost ended." Kurami said while holding her piece. Kurami's state wasn't exactly unharmed either. Having several segments of memory that didn't exist to flow into her brain was horrible. She was also conscious of the fact that her memories were taken away. However, the gameboard was mostly black——Kurami had an overwhelming advantage. "....Your memories are quite interesting, but I still don't understand your intentions." Even though she had obviously snatched away Sora's memories, she still didn't know about his real intentions. Sora's memories——flashed in her mind, causing Kurami to grimace in pain. "You are left with three pieces and I still don't know your purpose. This is surprising, your purpose in actuality constitutes your existence......But no matter what——I'll finish this." With a *Pa!*, Kurami placed a piece. "This should end it." Saying these words, Sora's figure disappeared from her eyes. For the three people that were watching from the side, they had bleak expressions, as if they weren't aware of it. Oblivious to Kurami and the gameboard, they staggered out of the room. This happened because they were also participants, as their memories disappeared. Then, with Shiro alone, she went on the bed and quietly fell asleep. ".....Since no one is to replace, and Sora had disappeared, [Unable to continue]——this is my win." In the end, she still couldn't guess out Sora's real intentions. Although the memories he gave out made her depressed, but so what—— "Kurami......Something isn't quite right." The gameboard should have made a victory declaration. "What is going on? Didn't you say that nothing was done to the game?" "I, I'm not wrong! This was modified by me!" "Then what is going on——unless this does not fulfill the [Unable to continue] !?" Suddenly, Kurami saw the three pieces left by Sora. Written on it was one, two and three. The most important pieces that constitutes oneself. "——wait, if his existence disappeared, then what do those three represent?" Unless——they were more important than [His own existence]. In order to have a better chance of winning? How could there be such a thing——however, in that case, it explained why she hasn't gotten the memory regarding Sora's intentions. "Kurami, what do we do?" "Still can do what?" If they wanted to forcefully end the game, The Flügel's strength was required. "My memory is also being in a state of elimination——we can only wait!" Kurami said so, feeling angry that the game was still ongoing. "...What, just what is that man doing——!" She easily defeated the man and made him disappear. But in his memories that Kurami had taken away, it felt as if she saw Sora giving a victory smile in the void———which made her feet shiver uncontrollably. ———....... Indeed, the [Hoax] Sora designed. It was what Kurami had suspected, that from the start Sora had the advantage. However——no one knew what those were. Even the one who made the game, using elven magic——couldn't comprehend it. Because this scam, was a cheat that was established in a situation where cheating is impossible. ——This game reflects one's subconsciousness and decided the importance of the pieces. In general, no one knew which concept was their most important. ——Exactly. Part 6 ".....Aside from Nii and Shiro...." Shiro smiled, watching the gameboard reappear. Which meant, this was——the truth behind the [Hoax] designed by her brother. "I remember, even though it was the rules of the game, but I actually forgot about Master." This was unavoidable, having agreed to participate in the game. Jibril was frustrated at her own incompetence. For trying to eliminate her master's existence and also suspecting. "Bu, but why would Sora disappear? That was intentional right!?" Steph shouted out, having retrieved her lost memories. However, even so, Shiro didn't prompt about Sora's memories and intentions. ——No, maybe that kind of memory, didn't exist from the start. Shiro believed, that her brother didn't tell his intentions to himself. Because if that memory was taken away, the overall plan would fail. However, there was no problem——because now she [Understood] ——Reversi, it is also a Zero-sum game of limited decisions. It is easier to establish a sure win method than chess. If this was to be won with normal means, Sora would've just left it to Shiro's substitute. The reason he didn't do so, but still chose a Reversi showdown——was probably to allow Shiro to facilitate. .....In the void, there was some kind of presence that laid down a black piece. It was undecisive, hesitant..... Yes——this rule was as Sora planned, unable to skip a turn. Shiro's substitute——which meant white's turn. This was a move that would completely block Kurami, the move that Sora decided before losing his sight. An important piece was to be placed prematurely——hesitating was out of the question. .....Feeling admiration for her brother who cast away his body, Shiro picked up the piece with [Two]. Shiro completely understood. Not caring about the [Concept] stored in this piece with [Two] carved on it, or her brother's intentions. ——Even so, she said to the enemy with sympathy: "...This plan....Nobody could...guess it....Nii....is really strong." Shiro made the move while laughing. Placing the piece down, half of the game disk instantly dyed white. Kurami and the elven girl——and the gradually looming shadow of her brother, Jibril and Steph widened their eyes. Shiro desperately held back the tears that were starting to overflow. The memories to her brother's plans to this game, disappeared from Shiro's phone, Imanity and Jibril. From this point, inferring what the three pieces represent was easy, which is—— [Three]——the method to win. [Two]——absolute trust in Shiro. And [One] is—— "...Everything about Shiro..." These were the concepts that held more importance than Sora's own existence. Why was she sure of it was very simple. Because if one stood upside down——Shiro could conclude she felt that herself. It would mean that you aren't yourself anymore, like Shiro who lost her brother. The factors to losing her brother——the possibility losing was more important than himself——not self-evident. Understanding this fact, Sora knew he would disappear from the start, and entrusted Shiro's substitute to reverse the situation——this kind of scam, even if you could see it, can you deal with it? The black piece was placed uneasily on the gameboard that was gradually dying white. "...Okay, Nii...." A long-awaited return. "...Come back——!" Sora's figure began to materialize, as the piece with [One] got laid down on the board. ——left with a mere four piece on the gameboard for black, a sound resounded with [Winner: Sora]. At the same time when Shiro rushed over to the winner. Sora's first sentence was—— "Very good, Shiro, you've beaten me, I'm conscious of that——" Unhesitantly flying into the arms of Sora, her words were slightly faster than his. With tears flowing down, Shiro buried herself in her brother's arms and said: "...Sorry.....Sorry....I should've——done it earlier....!" Jibril and Steph who couldn't keep up with the situation stared dumbfoundedly. However, a voice came from an unexpected place. "Kurami! Kurami! Can you hear me!?" Shifting their sights, they saw.... The elven girl was desperately trying to call out to Kurami, while Kurami—— Steph covered her mouth and gasped. Kurami was like an empty shell——no, it was more like a corpse, weakly lying down on the chair. ....Steph didn't understand how Sora won the game. However, once you lose in this game that Sora designed, the results would be.... If one wrong move was made....Sora's fate would've been.....Steph shuddered after thinking about it. What did she lose?——or aside from flesh, everything else was lost? The person known as Kurami was already——nonexistent. (Wh, what kind of mentality does he have, to start by [Being behind]!?) ——This game is incomprehensible, Steph looked at Sora with fearful eyes. If she didn't personally witness the game, she wouldn't have imagined that the results would be this horrifying. Sora who was still hugging the crying Shiro, expressionlessly spoke. "——Okay, [We] have won, now this is the first request." Hearing his words, the elven girl lamented and pleaded to him: "Wait——I'll agree to whatever you do! So please——don't let Kurami be like this!!" But Sora responded to her with eyes that felt like they've lost everything. ".....If I had lost, Shiro would make the same plea, would you agree then?" Yes——this was after they've gone through [Acciente], mutually agreeing to the start of the game. If their positions were reversed, she would be scoffing at Shiro....then—— "I, I know this is a very selfish request! Bu, but the one who set the changing request was you! I, I'll be at your disposal——so please don't let Kurami....don't let Kurami be like this——!" However, Sora exposed a demonic and tyrant smile, and swiped his hand down as if cutting something. "Can't~Do? I'll determine her fate now, soooo——" "No——NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" "Request 1, regarding the memories plundered and memories stolen——to be returned back." "————Eh...?" This sentence was synchronized by everyone present. "——Cough!——fuuu...Fuuu...." Kurami regained consciousness, as if remembering to breathe. The girl rushed over to Kurami, who was awake and staring at the void. "Kurami! Kurami! Are you alright!? Do you know who you are!?" The girl desperately cried out, but Kurami's eyes were still dazed. After several times of shaking her, Kurami finally woke up. "Yes.....Un, I'm fine....But....." ——Kurami clung to her own shoulders, and stared at Sora, as if having a nightmare. "This man——I can't understand why Sora is fine." ——then, in accordance to the Oaths, the game that Jibril and the elven girl collaborated on exploded. Seeing this, the one who sweated the most was unexpectedly——Sora. "How, how dangerous......Even if it was Jibril's [Core], this request is too much....." ——it couldn't comply with something that was impossible to achieve. Which means that Sora's request, exhausted the gameboard's mana until it couldn't sustain. Looking at Sora, Jibril quietly walked forward. "......Master, this kind of game, please allow me to stop you as the identity of a servant." "I refuse, taking into account of possible future opponents ahead, this kind of danger is good enough." "It's just——" Caressing Shiro who was crying in his chest, Sora said: "In any case, this kind of method I used, is——kinda beyond my imagination." "——BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION?! THAT'S MY LINE!" Although Sora's memories were fixed in Kurami's body, she was unable to not suspect those memories. An ordinary human that defeated God, as well as making The Flügel yield——but, compared to these things. Exposed to Sora's [Past]. she couldn't bear to say it. The Oaths, allowed her to keep Sora's memories. With those memories flashing past her mind, Kurami shouted with an expression of fear: "How——can you remain sane after all [These experiences]!?" What basis did she had to shout this out? If she even managed to take over Sora's existence, then she should be able to see it. The matter, something——that Shiro didn't know. But to Sora who was conscious of that, he asked everyone present: "Eh? Do I look normal to anyone?" ——No. Everyone answered and shook their heads. Was it beyond the relationship of trust?——wrong. Placing the position of the [Factors that make oneself], that isn't [Trust]. That was already one's reason of existence. Neither a metaphor nor exaggeration, these two were indeed——indispensable. Twisted. Damaged. However, these linked them together, as if they were originally designed to be a pair. Kurami couldn't comprehend, but after coming into contact with Sora's past, she understood that in the situation of an accident. [Destiny]——using this word that was cheap and too ambiguous, there was no other word to describe that kind of memory. "...Okay, the second request." Yes, in accordance to the Oaths, their request——[Left with one]. The elven girl went on full alert, but Kurami who knew Sora's intentions, said "It's fine" and stopped her. "That elf——[Fiel], I want a right to tamper your memory. It's not a forceful one, but under this mutual understanding, Kurami should know who I mean right?" Kurami sighed and nodded. "....Yes, I understand——you want us to be double agents right?" Sora smiled to the dismay of everyone, while Kurami continued: "You knew that as long as you gave those memories to me, using the Oaths wasn't necessary anymore. Drawing me to be a companion, I'm really condescended." But as if having a mischievous face that pranked a child, Kurami leaked out a smile. "——okay, I accept it, it's very interesting isn't it——your [Plan]." Seeing her look, Fiel understood. Sora's intentions——share his memories, peep into Kurami's own, and letting it stay. He didn't need to use the Oaths and only needed to make a request——tampering the memories at the appropriate time.... Taking into account that it would affect the war against Eastern Union——or even the future in fact—— Obtaining all these conclusions, the elfen girl said: "I see.....I'll be frank——we've [Completely lost]." Jibril and Steph froze in place. The only other person who understood that was Shiro, who widened her eyes and said: ".....Nii....Amazing..." "Aren't I~? You can praise your capable Nii?" Sora playfully said. But Shiro who was still firmly buried in Sora's chest. "....Un....Nii is Shiro's proud.....Nii...." "Wuahh, for you to praise me so frankly, your brother will be embarrassed....Oh!" As if a string was cut, Sora fell on the ground with Shiro, apparently hit by fatigue. Steph and Jibril panicked and ran over, but Sora raised his hand and stopped them before saying: "——Shiro....It's almost time?" "...Un, ready....anytime." And Kurami held the elven girl's——Fiel's hand. "I'm sorry, Fiel.....I have to request something from you." "Nuuu, ah, okay, go ahead!" Sora, Shiro, Kurami the three of them took a deep breathe. "Wuahhhhh super~ scary ahhh I'm so sorry I won't do it again ahhh sorry Shiro~~!" "Wuuuu~......Guuuu......Guuuuu." "Wuaaaa~~~~~~~~Really———What exactly is that man~~~~~" The three of them stunned the crowd. Like kids who were repenting on their wrongdoings, they cried until they felt exhausted and slept—— Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter |
DarkMoonWolfJun 4, 2014 1:44 PM
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Jun 4, 2014 12:59 PM
#113
dariken said: Just when I thought the JoJo-style asspulls can't get more magnificient than episode 6 had... Episode 6 didn't have an "asspull", everything from start to finish followed step by step from what came before. |
Jun 4, 2014 1:04 PM
#114
as a hater of this show, i never thought i'd post this, but this episode was amazing. This episode starts by exploring a bit of Shiro's past, and focus on Shiro's struggle to find her brother and get the memories back. Yes, there was some minor fan-service, but i'm fine with that. Looking forward the next episode! edit: raised my score (again) for this series because of this episode. be thankful. |
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Jun 4, 2014 1:11 PM
#115
Takuan_Soho said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Don't take this the wrong way, but you don't really sound like a person showing a lot of confidence in this shows overall appeal. Still the approach to try to convince people by what more or less looks like making concessions as to where the show falls short and dropping expectation levels is an interesting one. If you can somehow make it work then that's pretty impressive I've gotta say. I'll just offer in the mean time that what if maybe just maybe the act of having to drop that expectation of strong characters in itself makes the show not particularly great for a lot of people. I mean not having strong characters to identify with and experience the show through.....that's a pretty big concession to make for some and can easily be the difference between good and mediocre or even poor. I hope you try to understand that as time goes forward. Don't take this the wrong way, I am not as "vested" in appeal as you are. I do not really care whether the show I like is popular or get so pissed when a show I hate is popular. Besides, I like the characters and had already pointed out your mistake above. This is going to sound cliche as fuck, but who are you really trying to convince with all of this hostility, you or me? You make it sound like you're already convinced of your absolute inherent and uncontestable and universal correctness every single time you go to interact with someone, but there's something that keeps nagging at me making me wonder if that's really the case and why it's so important that you win this grand argument you seem to feel you are involved in. Yes that's fine you like the characters, I and other people have a lot of problems with them though so again it comes down to different standards. Now you probably think it's a matter of people just watching it wrong or taking them the wrong way or whatever, but guess what, people are different and there's no right or wrong way to watch a show, just ones own way. You can't just force people to magically adopt a totally different context specific standard for a show and expect it to have the same effect for them I've always felt, it just cheapens the experience and the eventual end rating if you have to make concession after concession of your values and standards of quality just to arrive at a specific reaction or rating. Where's the genuine appreciation in that? It's a shame you can't grasp this and be able to empathize with other viewers. In every interaction I've had with you or seen with others in this thread you never actually seem to make any sort of real attempt to have a pleasant normal discussion with others or share ideas with them so much as force it on them and act indignant when people don't just arbitrarily agree with you. People have been trying to tell you for weeks now that you are your own worst enemy when it comes to these situations and don't do the show or it's fanbase any favor with the type of behavior you show with the just anti-social, hostile and closed-minded approach to discussing it. I honestly feel at this point that if you didn't absolutely force yourself on people and into direct bitter contention with them every single time you see a post that doesn't exactly conform to your specific views on how to watch and react to this show that nobody would have any reason to pay attention to you anymore. It's pretty ridiculous and pointless man, like I don't feel like being hostile or critical of you on a personal level cause I feel that sort of thing inevitably leads nowhere in the long run and I'd hope it's the same with other people, but you practically give people no choice with your behavior. Very "bad manner" as they would say in a lot of online gaming circles. Anyway it's a good thing this show is starting to see a lot more reasonable posters on both sides of the fence who aren't either ridiculously passive aggressive over it or super hostile and trolling towards the show cause frankly it's not worth it. As I understand it some people who are fans of the show also feel like the adaptation of the source wasn't as on point as usual this week. It might be off topic but I'm curious to hear more on that front as things go forward. |
PeacingOutJun 4, 2014 1:15 PM
Jun 4, 2014 1:17 PM
#117
TraviiN said: Everything was planned :3 blank OP fixed. Sora would have lost w/o Shiro |
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Jun 4, 2014 1:23 PM
#118
kitkatxz said: Botato said: You're welcome. It was an amusing read though, kinda surprised you made it this far into the show. Nah, the show isn't Mars of Destruction or SAO lvl bad x.x. Hell this show is actually pretty fucking entertaining to watch if i had to rated it based on it's comedy i give it a 9/10. (Excluding this episode....) Thanks for actually reading it thou... i had to type that on my Andriod... not the best use of grammar right there. Well, not that I agree with all of what you said here, but to each his own. The comedy part however, yeah that's one of the reasons I'm really enjoying this show. Haha now I understand why the post was not as organized as it could have been, it looked like a giant hate rant and that's why I said I'm surprised you made it this far, sorry for jumping to conclusions :p |
Jun 4, 2014 1:28 PM
#119
Kaioshin_Sama said: Anyway it's a good thing this show is starting to see a lot more reasonable posters on both sides of the fence who aren't either ridiculously passive aggressive over it or super hostile and trolling towards the show cause frankly it's not worth it. As I understand it some people who are fans of the show also feel like the adaptation of the source wasn't as on point as usual this week. It might be off topic but I'm curious to hear more on that front as things go forward. Well they left most of the explanations concerning the game away, also apart from 2 scenes they cut most of Sora's struggle against Kurumi. In the LN e. g. you get far more steps in which you see how he slowly forgets who he is and more or less gets mad in the process. But the problem is that they there was no point at which they could have cut the episode so that the next one would have made sense. There wasn't enough text for 2 full episodes and a complete mood change after one third of the next episode would also have been bad. It was clear for me that they needed to get it in 1 ep and for that they made a good job, imo. |
Jun 4, 2014 1:49 PM
#120
Kaioshin_Sama said: who are you really trying to convince with all of this hostility, you or me? As I have said before, you really should drop your need to be a martyr. I have expressed no hostility towards you and have even said that if you lost your need to put people who disagree with you down you could be one of the better posters on MAL. Kaioshin_Sama said: You make it sound like you're already convinced of your absolute inherent and uncontestable and universal correctness every single time you go to interact with someone, That would be you. I state my opinions, and then back them up with quotes or scenes from the show I watch. You said that the sibs haven't developed, I gave you two scenes from two different episodes where they did show development. Kaioshin_Sama said: why it's so important that you win this grand argument you seem to feel you are involved in. Again that would be you. I have no desire to "win" (what would winning on MAL look like anyway), all I do is to respond when people say stuff I disagree with. As on the Mahouka thread, here I back my opinions with actual lines and scenes from the show. For example Episode 6 did make complete sense if one actually listened to what Jibiriru and Sora said, likewise the Chess game did make sense once you realized that all the figures acted like the Chivalry figures they were based on. Kaioshin_Sama said: Now you probably think it's a matter of people just watching it wrong or taking them the wrong way or whatever, but guess what, people are different and there's no right or wrong way to watch a show, just ones own way. Actually no, watching a show requires that you pay attention to what is actually on the show, or what the show actually claimed to be. One can clearly be wrong if what they are complaining about was actually answered in the show. Likewise if a show is tagged etcchi to begin with then someone complaining about it having fanservice is not a legitimate compliant. Likewise being disappointed that a comedy doesn't have drama is also the fault of a viewer, not a valid "opinion". Kaioshin_Sama said: and be able to empathize with other viewers. I empathize well, but pardon if I cannot empathize with someone who goes to a duck farm and is disappointed that it has ducks. Kaioshin_Sama said: In every interaction I've had with you or seen with others in this thread you never actually seem to make any sort of real attempt to have a pleasant normal discussion with others or share ideas with them so much as force it on them and act indignant when people don't just arbitrarily agree with you. Again that would be you. If I wasn't trying to engage people why exactly would I go and list all the lines and scenes that support my argument? Your problem isn't that I don't engage, but rather that you can't respond when I do engage. Your "engagement" is like this: You: "Sora is a crap character"; me: "what about when he apologized to Steph for insulting her father that was a pretty good scene"; you: "still a crap character". If that is engagement, so be it. |
Jun 4, 2014 1:51 PM
#121
Now that's a game with guts, having you risk a part of your own existence in every single piece played. It's kind of a shame we didn't see more of Sora's game, but I still loved the episode. |
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" Friedrich Schiller |
Jun 4, 2014 1:53 PM
#122
i'm calling it, a candidate for one of the best shows of the year! @@@@@ |
Jun 4, 2014 1:56 PM
#123
Loved the episode. As always, NGNL doesn't disappoint. This will soar to top 20. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:00 PM
#124
To its credit this show wasn't an easy drop like Mahouka or Black Bullet. The ironic thing, though, is this show is about games with main characters that never lose. In real life people who never lose at games are pretty boring to watch.. So I guess dropping this was the natural progression of things... |
Jun 4, 2014 2:05 PM
#125
ollythirteen said: To its credit this show wasn't an easy drop like Mahouka or Black Bullet. The ironic thing, though, is this show is about games with main characters that never lose. In real life people who never lose at games are pretty boring to watch.. So I guess dropping this was the natural progression of things... Watch Akagi or One Outs to see games where the protagonist always wins that are actually very suspenseful. |
Steel Ball Run anime when? |
Jun 4, 2014 2:06 PM
#126
Wow! What an anime. x3 So, when it comes to making up rules and conditions for games to play in that world, you can literally come up with anything! D: Having there own existence....gone for a while....... Damn! What a plot. :3 It was a really good episode, interesting and awesome to watch! x3 I was sad not to see Sora the first half, but he later appeared at the ending.....good to see he is fine. x3 Anyways, good episode, as always! Next episode! Can't wait~! x3 |
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Jun 4, 2014 2:08 PM
#127
DarkMoonWolf said: Kitoge said: Oh okay...actually wait...how'd they see the board then? I thought a spell was made to conceal it from them? Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: Shiro placed the Reversi piece engraved with [Three] in her hands. She stared at the empty space——no, staring at the invisible yet existant gameboard—— This was unfortunately a fight for 32 Reversi pieces that contains one's concept. The remaining pieces for both side were small in amount——meaning it was very important. Because they were pieces that once used would cause them to lose, they kept it. However, this rule was set—— was set by the challenged, in that case her brother. This meant that the game's advancement, even his disappearance was very meaningful. Which means——Shiro closed her eyes and thought. ——Why would her brother leave her alone? She was puzzled. However, it was definite course of action if the answer was known. The first of several very simple reasons. He would deliberately give some memories to the opponent, temporarily placing him on the side of the losing—— "....That sort of thing....Shiro...Can't do this...." Shiro made this conclusion with a sad smile after thinking for a moment. Her brother's actions, if performed by Shiro......She would definitely be unable to remain sane. Just because her brother disappeared from her side, she suspected her brother's existence. ——It was okay if she was forgotten. ——Forgetting about her brother——Shiro believed that her spirit wouldn't be able to remain normal. Shiro stared at the invisible, untouchable gameboard. The gameboard was really invisible, but—— Her brother hated sunlight, so she could discern that he wouldn't sit by the window. Her brother, whether he was sleeping or sitting, would always give Shiro the corner of the wall. Because Shiro would feel lonely if there was a wide space, her brother would always block the wide spaces for her. Although she couldn't see the gameboard, Everything was exposed to her. Her brother's habit, her brother's actions, everything related to her brother, her brother's sitting position, and even the space left for Shiro could be seen. (......Here.....Nii is....Here...) Shiro was convinced of where her brother was sitting, even if it was empty. Shiro's eye started feeling hot, but she forced herself back and continued thinking. (....After this....the second....at the same time.....the biggest....reason.) Shiro gripped the Reversi piece written with [Three], on the white side. Whether her brother is [White or black], this question was certain. Because he would always leave the last piece for [Shiro]——it was definitely white.[1] The invisible, and unknown game. She didn't have memories from the start, so she didn't know what was happening. However, her brother would deliberately lose and attain the step to allow Shiro[2] to win..... And after the opponent found out that they fell under Sora's plan and got induced to place a wrong move.... Then, reversing the position, her brother would choose the most optimal move. All of this speculation——needed three moves to win. Only this....You can do it! Shiro waved her hand downwards with confidence———— * Keng*, a sound that couldn't be identified rang in ears of the three people. Following that... "PAIN——!" "Ouch....Wh,what is going on!" Shiro, as well as Steph and Jibril held their heads, having a sudden splitting headache. Like echoes, the brain let out a murmur. The original gameboard which couldn't be seen appeared, and with a patter patter sound, the black board gradually dyed white. Then——the original memories a day and a half ago———flowed back in——— References 1 - Shiro means white in Japanese 2 - Ambiguous meaning, could mean white piece or Shiro I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: [19th. Daytime] Shiro and Sora were playing games in the throne hall. "Ahh, you've finally came, why keep me waiting?" Her brother said, gazing at the two girls in front of him. Wearing a black veil and black-haired, Kurami. And an elven girl who had conspicuously long ears and didn't bother to hide it. "....A tone as if knowing we were coming——of course....." Sora smiled and replied to Kurami's words: "Yes, I know your purpose for coming here, and anytime is possible." "Then hurry up, I must make you disappear and hand over the Imanity's chess piece." "Shiro, listen carefully." "....Un?" "I believe you." [19th. Evening].... "————Just like that Jibril. Can you do it?" Her master described an insanely terrifying game, but Jibril answered: "——Sorry, but I can't do it, such a massive game transformation——" "I didn't ask you to do it alone, you are to do it with the elven girl Kurami brought with her, okay?" Sora brought the topic to the elven girl who had not introduced herself. "...Asking me to cooperate with The Flügel? Please allow me to rightfully decline~?" "What a coincidence, I'll politely decline the invitation too~?" Sparks flew between their gazes, but Sora had a disinterested look. "Really? Then I don't accept the game, please go back okay?" Sora coldly rejected her. Kurami then said to the elven girl: "...You said you wanted to help me right?" "Of course, but to want me to work with that devil...Guuuu....Fine, I promise." ".....Nii." Hearing her brother's specified rules, Shiro nervously looked up at her brother. "Shiro, we are indispensable." [19th. Nighttime]..... Holding unto Jibril's Word connector's [Core], the elven girl complained: "This kind of elemental usage is as if you wanted to bomb the Elemental Gallery. Is your brain even normal." "I'm sorry, but the current trend is draw something out of the Elemental Gallery. It appears you long-eared people have mistaken for a bomb, next time I'll write a [Lower energy] note to her." "You all .....Who can you guys live in peace with?" "Because when I think of a certain Flügel in the war, shooting something that caused thousands of lives....Usually having a superiority complex, but to fire out [Heaven's strike], how naive." "Recognize yourself, if you had not deployed flying restriction magic, we wouldn't have cared about you, so this is your own demise. I merely swelled a package upon seeing that magic, and even if I've accidentally killed every one of you, what is wrong with it?" "Enough, both of you shut it and go back to work! Its almost a day!!" [20th. Daytime]....... "....Okay, it really exceeded a day." Sora stared at Jibril with cold eyes. While Kurami used the same kind of eyes to stare at her partner. "So, so sorryyyyyy, it's because of this long-eared girl that caused the loop to almost go out of control several of times." "Ev, everytime when she vetoed the loss of control, I had to recode everything!!" Sighing, Sora propped his hand on his cheek and said: "Nevermind, uh——then let me re-explain the rules." "...Nii." "Shiro, Nii is happy that you are worried, but rest assured. You should understand right?" "Shiro, we are bound by a [Promise]." "Shiro, we'll always win before the game starts." "——we'll get the last piece of the puzzle needed to swallow the Eastern Union." "...Un." Shiro nodded as Sora caressed her head and said: "——okay, should we begin?" [20th. Nighttime]..... "...........!" Shiro firmly held onto the shoulder of Sora's. Her left hand that was clenched firmly, pierced the skin and caused it to bleed. Looking at the scene ahead where her brother's memories, hands, legs and five senses were taken away, Shiro could only watch. Her brother believed Shiro, and Shiro in return trusted him. She could only wait. Although Steph was hesitant of stopping the game, she couldn't bear looking at that remorseful look of Shiro's. Using her hands to cover her face, she started crying. Jibril was speechless as she saw the determined face of her Masters. She widened her eyes, watching her every move. "——okay, it almost ended." Kurami said while holding her piece. Kurami's state wasn't exactly unharmed either. Having several segments of memory that didn't exist to flow into her brain was horrible. She was also conscious of the fact that her memories were taken away. However, the gameboard was mostly black——Kurami had an overwhelming advantage. "....Your memories are quite interesting, but I still don't understand your intentions." Even though she had obviously snatched away Sora's memories, she still didn't know about his real intentions. Sora's memories——flashed in her mind, causing Kurami to grimace in pain. "You are left with three pieces and I still don't know your purpose. This is surprising, your purpose in actuality constitutes your existence......But no matter what——I'll finish this." With a *Pa!*, Kurami placed a piece. "This should end it." Saying these words, Sora's figure disappeared from her eyes. For the three people that were watching from the side, they had bleak expressions, as if they weren't aware of it. Oblivious to Kurami and the gameboard, they staggered out of the room. This happened because they were also participants, as their memories disappeared. Then, with Shiro alone, she went on the bed and quietly fell asleep. ".....Since no one is to replace, and Sora had disappeared, [Unable to continue]——this is my win." In the end, she still couldn't guess out Sora's real intentions. Although the memories he gave out made her depressed, but so what—— "Kurami......Something isn't quite right." The gameboard should have made a victory declaration. "What is going on? Didn't you say that nothing was done to the game?" "I, I'm not wrong! This was modified by me!" "Then what is going on——unless this does not fulfill the [Unable to continue] !?" Suddenly, Kurami saw the three pieces left by Sora. Written on it was one, two and three. The most important pieces that constitutes oneself. "——wait, if his existence disappeared, then what do those three represent?" Unless——they were more important than [His own existence]. In order to have a better chance of winning? How could there be such a thing——however, in that case, it explained why she hasn't gotten the memory regarding Sora's intentions. "Kurami, what do we do?" "Still can do what?" If they wanted to forcefully end the game, The Flügel's strength was required. "My memory is also being in a state of elimination——we can only wait!" Kurami said so, feeling angry that the game was still ongoing. "...What, just what is that man doing——!" She easily defeated the man and made him disappear. But in his memories that Kurami had taken away, it felt as if she saw Sora giving a victory smile in the void———which made her feet shiver uncontrollably. ———....... Indeed, the [Hoax] Sora designed. It was what Kurami had suspected, that from the start Sora had the advantage. However——no one knew what those were. Even the one who made the game, using elven magic——couldn't comprehend it. Because this scam, was a cheat that was established in a situation where cheating is impossible. ——This game reflects one's subconsciousness and decided the importance of the pieces. In general, no one knew which concept was their most important. ——Exactly. Part 6 ".....Aside from Nii and Shiro...." Shiro smiled, watching the gameboard reappear. Which meant, this was——the truth behind the [Hoax] designed by her brother. "I remember, even though it was the rules of the game, but I actually forgot about Master." This was unavoidable, having agreed to participate in the game. Jibril was frustrated at her own incompetence. For trying to eliminate her master's existence and also suspecting. "Bu, but why would Sora disappear? That was intentional right!?" Steph shouted out, having retrieved her lost memories. However, even so, Shiro didn't prompt about Sora's memories and intentions. ——No, maybe that kind of memory, didn't exist from the start. Shiro believed, that her brother didn't tell his intentions to himself. Because if that memory was taken away, the overall plan would fail. However, there was no problem——because now she [Understood] ——Reversi, it is also a Zero-sum game of limited decisions. It is easier to establish a sure win method than chess. If this was to be won with normal means, Sora would've just left it to Shiro's substitute. The reason he didn't do so, but still chose a Reversi showdown——was probably to allow Shiro to facilitate. .....In the void, there was some kind of presence that laid down a black piece. It was undecisive, hesitant..... Yes——this rule was as Sora planned, unable to skip a turn. Shiro's substitute——which meant white's turn. This was a move that would completely block Kurami, the move that Sora decided before losing his sight. An important piece was to be placed prematurely——hesitating was out of the question. .....Feeling admiration for her brother who cast away his body, Shiro picked up the piece with [Two]. Shiro completely understood. Not caring about the [Concept] stored in this piece with [Two] carved on it, or her brother's intentions. ——Even so, she said to the enemy with sympathy: "...This plan....Nobody could...guess it....Nii....is really strong." Shiro made the move while laughing. Placing the piece down, half of the game disk instantly dyed white. Kurami and the elven girl——and the gradually looming shadow of her brother, Jibril and Steph widened their eyes. Shiro desperately held back the tears that were starting to overflow. The memories to her brother's plans to this game, disappeared from Shiro's phone, Imanity and Jibril. From this point, inferring what the three pieces represent was easy, which is—— [Three]——the method to win. [Two]——absolute trust in Shiro. And [One] is—— "...Everything about Shiro..." These were the concepts that held more importance than Sora's own existence. Why was she sure of it was very simple. Because if one stood upside down——Shiro could conclude she felt that herself. It would mean that you aren't yourself anymore, like Shiro who lost her brother. The factors to losing her brother——the possibility losing was more important than himself——not self-evident. Understanding this fact, Sora knew he would disappear from the start, and entrusted Shiro's substitute to reverse the situation——this kind of scam, even if you could see it, can you deal with it? The black piece was placed uneasily on the gameboard that was gradually dying white. "...Okay, Nii...." A long-awaited return. "...Come back——!" Sora's figure began to materialize, as the piece with [One] got laid down on the board. ——left with a mere four piece on the gameboard for black, a sound resounded with [Winner: Sora]. At the same time when Shiro rushed over to the winner. Sora's first sentence was—— "Very good, Shiro, you've beaten me, I'm conscious of that——" Unhesitantly flying into the arms of Sora, her words were slightly faster than his. With tears flowing down, Shiro buried herself in her brother's arms and said: "...Sorry.....Sorry....I should've——done it earlier....!" Jibril and Steph who couldn't keep up with the situation stared dumbfoundedly. However, a voice came from an unexpected place. "Kurami! Kurami! Can you hear me!?" Shifting their sights, they saw.... The elven girl was desperately trying to call out to Kurami, while Kurami—— Steph covered her mouth and gasped. Kurami was like an empty shell——no, it was more like a corpse, weakly lying down on the chair. ....Steph didn't understand how Sora won the game. However, once you lose in this game that Sora designed, the results would be.... If one wrong move was made....Sora's fate would've been.....Steph shuddered after thinking about it. What did she lose?——or aside from flesh, everything else was lost? The person known as Kurami was already——nonexistent. (Wh, what kind of mentality does he have, to start by [Being behind]!?) ——This game is incomprehensible, Steph looked at Sora with fearful eyes. If she didn't personally witness the game, she wouldn't have imagined that the results would be this horrifying. Sora who was still hugging the crying Shiro, expressionlessly spoke. "——Okay, [We] have won, now this is the first request." Hearing his words, the elven girl lamented and pleaded to him: "Wait——I'll agree to whatever you do! So please——don't let Kurami be like this!!" But Sora responded to her with eyes that felt like they've lost everything. ".....If I had lost, Shiro would make the same plea, would you agree then?" Yes——this was after they've gone through [Acciente], mutually agreeing to the start of the game. If their positions were reversed, she would be scoffing at Shiro....then—— "I, I know this is a very selfish request! Bu, but the one who set the changing request was you! I, I'll be at your disposal——so please don't let Kurami....don't let Kurami be like this——!" However, Sora exposed a demonic and tyrant smile, and swiped his hand down as if cutting something. "Can't~Do? I'll determine her fate now, soooo——" "No——NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" "Request 1, regarding the memories plundered and memories stolen——to be returned back." "————Eh...?" This sentence was synchronized by everyone present. "——Cough!——fuuu...Fuuu...." Kurami regained consciousness, as if remembering to breathe. The girl rushed over to Kurami, who was awake and staring at the void. "Kurami! Kurami! Are you alright!? Do you know who you are!?" The girl desperately cried out, but Kurami's eyes were still dazed. After several times of shaking her, Kurami finally woke up. "Yes.....Un, I'm fine....But....." ——Kurami clung to her own shoulders, and stared at Sora, as if having a nightmare. "This man——I can't understand why Sora is fine." ——then, in accordance to the Oaths, the game that Jibril and the elven girl collaborated on exploded. Seeing this, the one who sweated the most was unexpectedly——Sora. "How, how dangerous......Even if it was Jibril's [Core], this request is too much....." ——it couldn't comply with something that was impossible to achieve. Which means that Sora's request, exhausted the gameboard's mana until it couldn't sustain. Looking at Sora, Jibril quietly walked forward. "......Master, this kind of game, please allow me to stop you as the identity of a servant." "I refuse, taking into account of possible future opponents ahead, this kind of danger is good enough." "It's just——" Caressing Shiro who was crying in his chest, Sora said: "In any case, this kind of method I used, is——kinda beyond my imagination." "——BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION?! THAT'S MY LINE!" Although Sora's memories were fixed in Kurami's body, she was unable to not suspect those memories. An ordinary human that defeated God, as well as making The Flügel yield——but, compared to these things. Exposed to Sora's [Past]. she couldn't bear to say it. The Oaths, allowed her to keep Sora's memories. With those memories flashing past her mind, Kurami shouted with an expression of fear: "How——can you remain sane after all [These experiences]!?" What basis did she had to shout this out? If she even managed to take over Sora's existence, then she should be able to see it. The matter, something——that Shiro didn't know. But to Sora who was conscious of that, he asked everyone present: "Eh? Do I look normal to anyone?" ——No. Everyone answered and shook their heads. Was it beyond the relationship of trust?——wrong. Placing the position of the [Factors that make oneself], that isn't [Trust]. That was already one's reason of existence. Neither a metaphor nor exaggeration, these two were indeed——indispensable. Twisted. Damaged. However, these linked them together, as if they were originally designed to be a pair. Kurami couldn't comprehend, but after coming into contact with Sora's past, she understood that in the situation of an accident. [Destiny]——using this word that was cheap and too ambiguous, there was no other word to describe that kind of memory. "...Okay, the second request." Yes, in accordance to the Oaths, their request——[Left with one]. The elven girl went on full alert, but Kurami who knew Sora's intentions, said "It's fine" and stopped her. "That elf——[Fiel], I want a right to tamper your memory. It's not a forceful one, but under this mutual understanding, Kurami should know who I mean right?" Kurami sighed and nodded. "....Yes, I understand——you want us to be double agents right?" Sora smiled to the dismay of everyone, while Kurami continued: "You knew that as long as you gave those memories to me, using the Oaths wasn't necessary anymore. Drawing me to be a companion, I'm really condescended." But as if having a mischievous face that pranked a child, Kurami leaked out a smile. "——okay, I accept it, it's very interesting isn't it——your [Plan]." Seeing her look, Fiel understood. Sora's intentions——share his memories, peep into Kurami's own, and letting it stay. He didn't need to use the Oaths and only needed to make a request——tampering the memories at the appropriate time.... Taking into account that it would affect the war against Eastern Union——or even the future in fact—— Obtaining all these conclusions, the elfen girl said: "I see.....I'll be frank——we've [Completely lost]." Jibril and Steph froze in place. The only other person who understood that was Shiro, who widened her eyes and said: ".....Nii....Amazing..." "Aren't I~? You can praise your capable Nii?" Sora playfully said. But Shiro who was still firmly buried in Sora's chest. "....Un....Nii is Shiro's proud.....Nii...." "Wuahh, for you to praise me so frankly, your brother will be embarrassed....Oh!" As if a string was cut, Sora fell on the ground with Shiro, apparently hit by fatigue. Steph and Jibril panicked and ran over, but Sora raised his hand and stopped them before saying: "——Shiro....It's almost time?" "...Un, ready....anytime." And Kurami held the elven girl's——Fiel's hand. "I'm sorry, Fiel.....I have to request something from you." "Nuuu, ah, okay, go ahead!" Sora, Shiro, Kurami the three of them took a deep breathe. "Wuahhhhh super~ scary ahhh I'm so sorry I won't do it again ahhh sorry Shiro~~!" "Wuuuu~......Guuuu......Guuuuu." "Wuaaaa~~~~~~~~Really———What exactly is that man~~~~~" The three of them stunned the crowd. Like kids who were repenting on their wrongdoings, they cried until they felt exhausted and slept—— Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter thank you. This anime is amazing and this episode is one of the best that i have ever seen. In the other hand there is a lot of information compressed in 20 minutes only (although i can understand why). I don't understand why people complain about it! |
J87Jun 4, 2014 2:15 PM
Jun 4, 2014 2:18 PM
#128
J87 said: DarkMoonWolf said: Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: Shiro placed the Reversi piece engraved with [Three] in her hands. She stared at the empty space——no, staring at the invisible yet existant gameboard—— This was unfortunately a fight for 32 Reversi pieces that contains one's concept. The remaining pieces for both side were small in amount——meaning it was very important. Because they were pieces that once used would cause them to lose, they kept it. However, this rule was set—— was set by the challenged, in that case her brother. This meant that the game's advancement, even his disappearance was very meaningful. Which means——Shiro closed her eyes and thought. ——Why would her brother leave her alone? She was puzzled. However, it was definite course of action if the answer was known. The first of several very simple reasons. He would deliberately give some memories to the opponent, temporarily placing him on the side of the losing—— "....That sort of thing....Shiro...Can't do this...." Shiro made this conclusion with a sad smile after thinking for a moment. Her brother's actions, if performed by Shiro......She would definitely be unable to remain sane. Just because her brother disappeared from her side, she suspected her brother's existence. ——It was okay if she was forgotten. ——Forgetting about her brother——Shiro believed that her spirit wouldn't be able to remain normal. Shiro stared at the invisible, untouchable gameboard. The gameboard was really invisible, but—— Her brother hated sunlight, so she could discern that he wouldn't sit by the window. Her brother, whether he was sleeping or sitting, would always give Shiro the corner of the wall. Because Shiro would feel lonely if there was a wide space, her brother would always block the wide spaces for her. Although she couldn't see the gameboard, Everything was exposed to her. Her brother's habit, her brother's actions, everything related to her brother, her brother's sitting position, and even the space left for Shiro could be seen. (......Here.....Nii is....Here...) Shiro was convinced of where her brother was sitting, even if it was empty. Shiro's eye started feeling hot, but she forced herself back and continued thinking. (....After this....the second....at the same time.....the biggest....reason.) Shiro gripped the Reversi piece written with [Three], on the white side. Whether her brother is [White or black], this question was certain. Because he would always leave the last piece for [Shiro]——it was definitely white.[1] The invisible, and unknown game. She didn't have memories from the start, so she didn't know what was happening. However, her brother would deliberately lose and attain the step to allow Shiro[2] to win..... And after the opponent found out that they fell under Sora's plan and got induced to place a wrong move.... Then, reversing the position, her brother would choose the most optimal move. All of this speculation——needed three moves to win. Only this....You can do it! Shiro waved her hand downwards with confidence———— * Keng*, a sound that couldn't be identified rang in ears of the three people. Following that... "PAIN——!" "Ouch....Wh,what is going on!" Shiro, as well as Steph and Jibril held their heads, having a sudden splitting headache. Like echoes, the brain let out a murmur. The original gameboard which couldn't be seen appeared, and with a patter patter sound, the black board gradually dyed white. Then——the original memories a day and a half ago———flowed back in——— References 1 - Shiro means white in Japanese 2 - Ambiguous meaning, could mean white piece or Shiro I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: [19th. Daytime] Shiro and Sora were playing games in the throne hall. "Ahh, you've finally came, why keep me waiting?" Her brother said, gazing at the two girls in front of him. Wearing a black veil and black-haired, Kurami. And an elven girl who had conspicuously long ears and didn't bother to hide it. "....A tone as if knowing we were coming——of course....." Sora smiled and replied to Kurami's words: "Yes, I know your purpose for coming here, and anytime is possible." "Then hurry up, I must make you disappear and hand over the Imanity's chess piece." "Shiro, listen carefully." "....Un?" "I believe you." [19th. Evening].... "————Just like that Jibril. Can you do it?" Her master described an insanely terrifying game, but Jibril answered: "——Sorry, but I can't do it, such a massive game transformation——" "I didn't ask you to do it alone, you are to do it with the elven girl Kurami brought with her, okay?" Sora brought the topic to the elven girl who had not introduced herself. "...Asking me to cooperate with The Flügel? Please allow me to rightfully decline~?" "What a coincidence, I'll politely decline the invitation too~?" Sparks flew between their gazes, but Sora had a disinterested look. "Really? Then I don't accept the game, please go back okay?" Sora coldly rejected her. Kurami then said to the elven girl: "...You said you wanted to help me right?" "Of course, but to want me to work with that devil...Guuuu....Fine, I promise." ".....Nii." Hearing her brother's specified rules, Shiro nervously looked up at her brother. "Shiro, we are indispensable." [19th. Nighttime]..... Holding unto Jibril's Word connector's [Core], the elven girl complained: "This kind of elemental usage is as if you wanted to bomb the Elemental Gallery. Is your brain even normal." "I'm sorry, but the current trend is draw something out of the Elemental Gallery. It appears you long-eared people have mistaken for a bomb, next time I'll write a [Lower energy] note to her." "You all .....Who can you guys live in peace with?" "Because when I think of a certain Flügel in the war, shooting something that caused thousands of lives....Usually having a superiority complex, but to fire out [Heaven's strike], how naive." "Recognize yourself, if you had not deployed flying restriction magic, we wouldn't have cared about you, so this is your own demise. I merely swelled a package upon seeing that magic, and even if I've accidentally killed every one of you, what is wrong with it?" "Enough, both of you shut it and go back to work! Its almost a day!!" [20th. Daytime]....... "....Okay, it really exceeded a day." Sora stared at Jibril with cold eyes. While Kurami used the same kind of eyes to stare at her partner. "So, so sorryyyyyy, it's because of this long-eared girl that caused the loop to almost go out of control several of times." "Ev, everytime when she vetoed the loss of control, I had to recode everything!!" Sighing, Sora propped his hand on his cheek and said: "Nevermind, uh——then let me re-explain the rules." "...Nii." "Shiro, Nii is happy that you are worried, but rest assured. You should understand right?" "Shiro, we are bound by a [Promise]." "Shiro, we'll always win before the game starts." "——we'll get the last piece of the puzzle needed to swallow the Eastern Union." "...Un." Shiro nodded as Sora caressed her head and said: "——okay, should we begin?" [20th. Nighttime]..... "...........!" Shiro firmly held onto the shoulder of Sora's. Her left hand that was clenched firmly, pierced the skin and caused it to bleed. Looking at the scene ahead where her brother's memories, hands, legs and five senses were taken away, Shiro could only watch. Her brother believed Shiro, and Shiro in return trusted him. She could only wait. Although Steph was hesitant of stopping the game, she couldn't bear looking at that remorseful look of Shiro's. Using her hands to cover her face, she started crying. Jibril was speechless as she saw the determined face of her Masters. She widened her eyes, watching her every move. "——okay, it almost ended." Kurami said while holding her piece. Kurami's state wasn't exactly unharmed either. Having several segments of memory that didn't exist to flow into her brain was horrible. She was also conscious of the fact that her memories were taken away. However, the gameboard was mostly black——Kurami had an overwhelming advantage. "....Your memories are quite interesting, but I still don't understand your intentions." Even though she had obviously snatched away Sora's memories, she still didn't know about his real intentions. Sora's memories——flashed in her mind, causing Kurami to grimace in pain. "You are left with three pieces and I still don't know your purpose. This is surprising, your purpose in actuality constitutes your existence......But no matter what——I'll finish this." With a *Pa!*, Kurami placed a piece. "This should end it." Saying these words, Sora's figure disappeared from her eyes. For the three people that were watching from the side, they had bleak expressions, as if they weren't aware of it. Oblivious to Kurami and the gameboard, they staggered out of the room. This happened because they were also participants, as their memories disappeared. Then, with Shiro alone, she went on the bed and quietly fell asleep. ".....Since no one is to replace, and Sora had disappeared, [Unable to continue]——this is my win." In the end, she still couldn't guess out Sora's real intentions. Although the memories he gave out made her depressed, but so what—— "Kurami......Something isn't quite right." The gameboard should have made a victory declaration. "What is going on? Didn't you say that nothing was done to the game?" "I, I'm not wrong! This was modified by me!" "Then what is going on——unless this does not fulfill the [Unable to continue] !?" Suddenly, Kurami saw the three pieces left by Sora. Written on it was one, two and three. The most important pieces that constitutes oneself. "——wait, if his existence disappeared, then what do those three represent?" Unless——they were more important than [His own existence]. In order to have a better chance of winning? How could there be such a thing——however, in that case, it explained why she hasn't gotten the memory regarding Sora's intentions. "Kurami, what do we do?" "Still can do what?" If they wanted to forcefully end the game, The Flügel's strength was required. "My memory is also being in a state of elimination——we can only wait!" Kurami said so, feeling angry that the game was still ongoing. "...What, just what is that man doing——!" She easily defeated the man and made him disappear. But in his memories that Kurami had taken away, it felt as if she saw Sora giving a victory smile in the void———which made her feet shiver uncontrollably. ———....... Indeed, the [Hoax] Sora designed. It was what Kurami had suspected, that from the start Sora had the advantage. However——no one knew what those were. Even the one who made the game, using elven magic——couldn't comprehend it. Because this scam, was a cheat that was established in a situation where cheating is impossible. ——This game reflects one's subconsciousness and decided the importance of the pieces. In general, no one knew which concept was their most important. ——Exactly. Part 6 ".....Aside from Nii and Shiro...." Shiro smiled, watching the gameboard reappear. Which meant, this was——the truth behind the [Hoax] designed by her brother. "I remember, even though it was the rules of the game, but I actually forgot about Master." This was unavoidable, having agreed to participate in the game. Jibril was frustrated at her own incompetence. For trying to eliminate her master's existence and also suspecting. "Bu, but why would Sora disappear? That was intentional right!?" Steph shouted out, having retrieved her lost memories. However, even so, Shiro didn't prompt about Sora's memories and intentions. ——No, maybe that kind of memory, didn't exist from the start. Shiro believed, that her brother didn't tell his intentions to himself. Because if that memory was taken away, the overall plan would fail. However, there was no problem——because now she [Understood] ——Reversi, it is also a Zero-sum game of limited decisions. It is easier to establish a sure win method than chess. If this was to be won with normal means, Sora would've just left it to Shiro's substitute. The reason he didn't do so, but still chose a Reversi showdown——was probably to allow Shiro to facilitate. .....In the void, there was some kind of presence that laid down a black piece. It was undecisive, hesitant..... Yes——this rule was as Sora planned, unable to skip a turn. Shiro's substitute——which meant white's turn. This was a move that would completely block Kurami, the move that Sora decided before losing his sight. An important piece was to be placed prematurely——hesitating was out of the question. .....Feeling admiration for her brother who cast away his body, Shiro picked up the piece with [Two]. Shiro completely understood. Not caring about the [Concept] stored in this piece with [Two] carved on it, or her brother's intentions. ——Even so, she said to the enemy with sympathy: "...This plan....Nobody could...guess it....Nii....is really strong." Shiro made the move while laughing. Placing the piece down, half of the game disk instantly dyed white. Kurami and the elven girl——and the gradually looming shadow of her brother, Jibril and Steph widened their eyes. Shiro desperately held back the tears that were starting to overflow. The memories to her brother's plans to this game, disappeared from Shiro's phone, Imanity and Jibril. From this point, inferring what the three pieces represent was easy, which is—— [Three]——the method to win. [Two]——absolute trust in Shiro. And [One] is—— "...Everything about Shiro..." These were the concepts that held more importance than Sora's own existence. Why was she sure of it was very simple. Because if one stood upside down——Shiro could conclude she felt that herself. It would mean that you aren't yourself anymore, like Shiro who lost her brother. The factors to losing her brother——the possibility losing was more important than himself——not self-evident. Understanding this fact, Sora knew he would disappear from the start, and entrusted Shiro's substitute to reverse the situation——this kind of scam, even if you could see it, can you deal with it? The black piece was placed uneasily on the gameboard that was gradually dying white. "...Okay, Nii...." A long-awaited return. "...Come back——!" Sora's figure began to materialize, as the piece with [One] got laid down on the board. ——left with a mere four piece on the gameboard for black, a sound resounded with [Winner: Sora]. At the same time when Shiro rushed over to the winner. Sora's first sentence was—— "Very good, Shiro, you've beaten me, I'm conscious of that——" Unhesitantly flying into the arms of Sora, her words were slightly faster than his. With tears flowing down, Shiro buried herself in her brother's arms and said: "...Sorry.....Sorry....I should've——done it earlier....!" Jibril and Steph who couldn't keep up with the situation stared dumbfoundedly. However, a voice came from an unexpected place. "Kurami! Kurami! Can you hear me!?" Shifting their sights, they saw.... The elven girl was desperately trying to call out to Kurami, while Kurami—— Steph covered her mouth and gasped. Kurami was like an empty shell——no, it was more like a corpse, weakly lying down on the chair. ....Steph didn't understand how Sora won the game. However, once you lose in this game that Sora designed, the results would be.... If one wrong move was made....Sora's fate would've been.....Steph shuddered after thinking about it. What did she lose?——or aside from flesh, everything else was lost? The person known as Kurami was already——nonexistent. (Wh, what kind of mentality does he have, to start by [Being behind]!?) ——This game is incomprehensible, Steph looked at Sora with fearful eyes. If she didn't personally witness the game, she wouldn't have imagined that the results would be this horrifying. Sora who was still hugging the crying Shiro, expressionlessly spoke. "——Okay, [We] have won, now this is the first request." Hearing his words, the elven girl lamented and pleaded to him: "Wait——I'll agree to whatever you do! So please——don't let Kurami be like this!!" But Sora responded to her with eyes that felt like they've lost everything. ".....If I had lost, Shiro would make the same plea, would you agree then?" Yes——this was after they've gone through [Acciente], mutually agreeing to the start of the game. If their positions were reversed, she would be scoffing at Shiro....then—— "I, I know this is a very selfish request! Bu, but the one who set the changing request was you! I, I'll be at your disposal——so please don't let Kurami....don't let Kurami be like this——!" However, Sora exposed a demonic and tyrant smile, and swiped his hand down as if cutting something. "Can't~Do? I'll determine her fate now, soooo——" "No——NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" "Request 1, regarding the memories plundered and memories stolen——to be returned back." "————Eh...?" This sentence was synchronized by everyone present. "——Cough!——fuuu...Fuuu...." Kurami regained consciousness, as if remembering to breathe. The girl rushed over to Kurami, who was awake and staring at the void. "Kurami! Kurami! Are you alright!? Do you know who you are!?" The girl desperately cried out, but Kurami's eyes were still dazed. After several times of shaking her, Kurami finally woke up. "Yes.....Un, I'm fine....But....." ——Kurami clung to her own shoulders, and stared at Sora, as if having a nightmare. "This man——I can't understand why Sora is fine." ——then, in accordance to the Oaths, the game that Jibril and the elven girl collaborated on exploded. Seeing this, the one who sweated the most was unexpectedly——Sora. "How, how dangerous......Even if it was Jibril's [Core], this request is too much....." ——it couldn't comply with something that was impossible to achieve. Which means that Sora's request, exhausted the gameboard's mana until it couldn't sustain. Looking at Sora, Jibril quietly walked forward. "......Master, this kind of game, please allow me to stop you as the identity of a servant." "I refuse, taking into account of possible future opponents ahead, this kind of danger is good enough." "It's just——" Caressing Shiro who was crying in his chest, Sora said: "In any case, this kind of method I used, is——kinda beyond my imagination." "——BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION?! THAT'S MY LINE!" Although Sora's memories were fixed in Kurami's body, she was unable to not suspect those memories. An ordinary human that defeated God, as well as making The Flügel yield——but, compared to these things. Exposed to Sora's [Past]. she couldn't bear to say it. The Oaths, allowed her to keep Sora's memories. With those memories flashing past her mind, Kurami shouted with an expression of fear: "How——can you remain sane after all [These experiences]!?" What basis did she had to shout this out? If she even managed to take over Sora's existence, then she should be able to see it. The matter, something——that Shiro didn't know. But to Sora who was conscious of that, he asked everyone present: "Eh? Do I look normal to anyone?" ——No. Everyone answered and shook their heads. Was it beyond the relationship of trust?——wrong. Placing the position of the [Factors that make oneself], that isn't [Trust]. That was already one's reason of existence. Neither a metaphor nor exaggeration, these two were indeed——indispensable. Twisted. Damaged. However, these linked them together, as if they were originally designed to be a pair. Kurami couldn't comprehend, but after coming into contact with Sora's past, she understood that in the situation of an accident. [Destiny]——using this word that was cheap and too ambiguous, there was no other word to describe that kind of memory. "...Okay, the second request." Yes, in accordance to the Oaths, their request——[Left with one]. The elven girl went on full alert, but Kurami who knew Sora's intentions, said "It's fine" and stopped her. "That elf——[Fiel], I want a right to tamper your memory. It's not a forceful one, but under this mutual understanding, Kurami should know who I mean right?" Kurami sighed and nodded. "....Yes, I understand——you want us to be double agents right?" Sora smiled to the dismay of everyone, while Kurami continued: "You knew that as long as you gave those memories to me, using the Oaths wasn't necessary anymore. Drawing me to be a companion, I'm really condescended." But as if having a mischievous face that pranked a child, Kurami leaked out a smile. "——okay, I accept it, it's very interesting isn't it——your [Plan]." Seeing her look, Fiel understood. Sora's intentions——share his memories, peep into Kurami's own, and letting it stay. He didn't need to use the Oaths and only needed to make a request——tampering the memories at the appropriate time.... Taking into account that it would affect the war against Eastern Union——or even the future in fact—— Obtaining all these conclusions, the elfen girl said: "I see.....I'll be frank——we've [Completely lost]." Jibril and Steph froze in place. The only other person who understood that was Shiro, who widened her eyes and said: ".....Nii....Amazing..." "Aren't I~? You can praise your capable Nii?" Sora playfully said. But Shiro who was still firmly buried in Sora's chest. "....Un....Nii is Shiro's proud.....Nii...." "Wuahh, for you to praise me so frankly, your brother will be embarrassed....Oh!" As if a string was cut, Sora fell on the ground with Shiro, apparently hit by fatigue. Steph and Jibril panicked and ran over, but Sora raised his hand and stopped them before saying: "——Shiro....It's almost time?" "...Un, ready....anytime." And Kurami held the elven girl's——Fiel's hand. "I'm sorry, Fiel.....I have to request something from you." "Nuuu, ah, okay, go ahead!" Sora, Shiro, Kurami the three of them took a deep breathe. "Wuahhhhh super~ scary ahhh I'm so sorry I won't do it again ahhh sorry Shiro~~!" "Wuuuu~......Guuuu......Guuuuu." "Wuaaaa~~~~~~~~Really———What exactly is that man~~~~~" The three of them stunned the crowd. Like kids who were repenting on their wrongdoings, they cried until they felt exhausted and slept—— Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter thank you. This show is amazing and this episode is one of the best that i have ever seen and there is a lot of information compressed in 20 min only (i can understand why though). I don't understand why people complain about it! Actually today's 20 minutes covered the complete 1st chapter of volume 2 of the Light novel... I only posted the 5th and 6th part of chapter one.... believe me, a LOT of information was lost during todays episode. |
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Jun 4, 2014 2:25 PM
#129
That was a really interesting episode. At the end, I thought Sora & Shiro and Kurami & Fi were gonna kiss lol... |
Jun 4, 2014 2:27 PM
#130
DarkMoonWolf said: J87 said: DarkMoonWolf said: Kitoge said: Oh okay...actually wait...how'd they see the board then? I thought a spell was made to conceal it from them? Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: Shiro placed the Reversi piece engraved with [Three] in her hands. She stared at the empty space——no, staring at the invisible yet existant gameboard—— This was unfortunately a fight for 32 Reversi pieces that contains one's concept. The remaining pieces for both side were small in amount——meaning it was very important. Because they were pieces that once used would cause them to lose, they kept it. However, this rule was set—— was set by the challenged, in that case her brother. This meant that the game's advancement, even his disappearance was very meaningful. Which means——Shiro closed her eyes and thought. ——Why would her brother leave her alone? She was puzzled. However, it was definite course of action if the answer was known. The first of several very simple reasons. He would deliberately give some memories to the opponent, temporarily placing him on the side of the losing—— "....That sort of thing....Shiro...Can't do this...." Shiro made this conclusion with a sad smile after thinking for a moment. Her brother's actions, if performed by Shiro......She would definitely be unable to remain sane. Just because her brother disappeared from her side, she suspected her brother's existence. ——It was okay if she was forgotten. ——Forgetting about her brother——Shiro believed that her spirit wouldn't be able to remain normal. Shiro stared at the invisible, untouchable gameboard. The gameboard was really invisible, but—— Her brother hated sunlight, so she could discern that he wouldn't sit by the window. Her brother, whether he was sleeping or sitting, would always give Shiro the corner of the wall. Because Shiro would feel lonely if there was a wide space, her brother would always block the wide spaces for her. Although she couldn't see the gameboard, Everything was exposed to her. Her brother's habit, her brother's actions, everything related to her brother, her brother's sitting position, and even the space left for Shiro could be seen. (......Here.....Nii is....Here...) Shiro was convinced of where her brother was sitting, even if it was empty. Shiro's eye started feeling hot, but she forced herself back and continued thinking. (....After this....the second....at the same time.....the biggest....reason.) Shiro gripped the Reversi piece written with [Three], on the white side. Whether her brother is [White or black], this question was certain. Because he would always leave the last piece for [Shiro]——it was definitely white.[1] The invisible, and unknown game. She didn't have memories from the start, so she didn't know what was happening. However, her brother would deliberately lose and attain the step to allow Shiro[2] to win..... And after the opponent found out that they fell under Sora's plan and got induced to place a wrong move.... Then, reversing the position, her brother would choose the most optimal move. All of this speculation——needed three moves to win. Only this....You can do it! Shiro waved her hand downwards with confidence———— * Keng*, a sound that couldn't be identified rang in ears of the three people. Following that... "PAIN——!" "Ouch....Wh,what is going on!" Shiro, as well as Steph and Jibril held their heads, having a sudden splitting headache. Like echoes, the brain let out a murmur. The original gameboard which couldn't be seen appeared, and with a patter patter sound, the black board gradually dyed white. Then——the original memories a day and a half ago———flowed back in——— References 1 - Shiro means white in Japanese 2 - Ambiguous meaning, could mean white piece or Shiro I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: [19th. Daytime] Shiro and Sora were playing games in the throne hall. "Ahh, you've finally came, why keep me waiting?" Her brother said, gazing at the two girls in front of him. Wearing a black veil and black-haired, Kurami. And an elven girl who had conspicuously long ears and didn't bother to hide it. "....A tone as if knowing we were coming——of course....." Sora smiled and replied to Kurami's words: "Yes, I know your purpose for coming here, and anytime is possible." "Then hurry up, I must make you disappear and hand over the Imanity's chess piece." "Shiro, listen carefully." "....Un?" "I believe you." [19th. Evening].... "————Just like that Jibril. Can you do it?" Her master described an insanely terrifying game, but Jibril answered: "——Sorry, but I can't do it, such a massive game transformation——" "I didn't ask you to do it alone, you are to do it with the elven girl Kurami brought with her, okay?" Sora brought the topic to the elven girl who had not introduced herself. "...Asking me to cooperate with The Flügel? Please allow me to rightfully decline~?" "What a coincidence, I'll politely decline the invitation too~?" Sparks flew between their gazes, but Sora had a disinterested look. "Really? Then I don't accept the game, please go back okay?" Sora coldly rejected her. Kurami then said to the elven girl: "...You said you wanted to help me right?" "Of course, but to want me to work with that devil...Guuuu....Fine, I promise." ".....Nii." Hearing her brother's specified rules, Shiro nervously looked up at her brother. "Shiro, we are indispensable." [19th. Nighttime]..... Holding unto Jibril's Word connector's [Core], the elven girl complained: "This kind of elemental usage is as if you wanted to bomb the Elemental Gallery. Is your brain even normal." "I'm sorry, but the current trend is draw something out of the Elemental Gallery. It appears you long-eared people have mistaken for a bomb, next time I'll write a [Lower energy] note to her." "You all .....Who can you guys live in peace with?" "Because when I think of a certain Flügel in the war, shooting something that caused thousands of lives....Usually having a superiority complex, but to fire out [Heaven's strike], how naive." "Recognize yourself, if you had not deployed flying restriction magic, we wouldn't have cared about you, so this is your own demise. I merely swelled a package upon seeing that magic, and even if I've accidentally killed every one of you, what is wrong with it?" "Enough, both of you shut it and go back to work! Its almost a day!!" [20th. Daytime]....... "....Okay, it really exceeded a day." Sora stared at Jibril with cold eyes. While Kurami used the same kind of eyes to stare at her partner. "So, so sorryyyyyy, it's because of this long-eared girl that caused the loop to almost go out of control several of times." "Ev, everytime when she vetoed the loss of control, I had to recode everything!!" Sighing, Sora propped his hand on his cheek and said: "Nevermind, uh——then let me re-explain the rules." "...Nii." "Shiro, Nii is happy that you are worried, but rest assured. You should understand right?" "Shiro, we are bound by a [Promise]." "Shiro, we'll always win before the game starts." "——we'll get the last piece of the puzzle needed to swallow the Eastern Union." "...Un." Shiro nodded as Sora caressed her head and said: "——okay, should we begin?" [20th. Nighttime]..... "...........!" Shiro firmly held onto the shoulder of Sora's. Her left hand that was clenched firmly, pierced the skin and caused it to bleed. Looking at the scene ahead where her brother's memories, hands, legs and five senses were taken away, Shiro could only watch. Her brother believed Shiro, and Shiro in return trusted him. She could only wait. Although Steph was hesitant of stopping the game, she couldn't bear looking at that remorseful look of Shiro's. Using her hands to cover her face, she started crying. Jibril was speechless as she saw the determined face of her Masters. She widened her eyes, watching her every move. "——okay, it almost ended." Kurami said while holding her piece. Kurami's state wasn't exactly unharmed either. Having several segments of memory that didn't exist to flow into her brain was horrible. She was also conscious of the fact that her memories were taken away. However, the gameboard was mostly black——Kurami had an overwhelming advantage. "....Your memories are quite interesting, but I still don't understand your intentions." Even though she had obviously snatched away Sora's memories, she still didn't know about his real intentions. Sora's memories——flashed in her mind, causing Kurami to grimace in pain. "You are left with three pieces and I still don't know your purpose. This is surprising, your purpose in actuality constitutes your existence......But no matter what——I'll finish this." With a *Pa!*, Kurami placed a piece. "This should end it." Saying these words, Sora's figure disappeared from her eyes. For the three people that were watching from the side, they had bleak expressions, as if they weren't aware of it. Oblivious to Kurami and the gameboard, they staggered out of the room. This happened because they were also participants, as their memories disappeared. Then, with Shiro alone, she went on the bed and quietly fell asleep. ".....Since no one is to replace, and Sora had disappeared, [Unable to continue]——this is my win." In the end, she still couldn't guess out Sora's real intentions. Although the memories he gave out made her depressed, but so what—— "Kurami......Something isn't quite right." The gameboard should have made a victory declaration. "What is going on? Didn't you say that nothing was done to the game?" "I, I'm not wrong! This was modified by me!" "Then what is going on——unless this does not fulfill the [Unable to continue] !?" Suddenly, Kurami saw the three pieces left by Sora. Written on it was one, two and three. The most important pieces that constitutes oneself. "——wait, if his existence disappeared, then what do those three represent?" Unless——they were more important than [His own existence]. In order to have a better chance of winning? How could there be such a thing——however, in that case, it explained why she hasn't gotten the memory regarding Sora's intentions. "Kurami, what do we do?" "Still can do what?" If they wanted to forcefully end the game, The Flügel's strength was required. "My memory is also being in a state of elimination——we can only wait!" Kurami said so, feeling angry that the game was still ongoing. "...What, just what is that man doing——!" She easily defeated the man and made him disappear. But in his memories that Kurami had taken away, it felt as if she saw Sora giving a victory smile in the void———which made her feet shiver uncontrollably. ———....... Indeed, the [Hoax] Sora designed. It was what Kurami had suspected, that from the start Sora had the advantage. However——no one knew what those were. Even the one who made the game, using elven magic——couldn't comprehend it. Because this scam, was a cheat that was established in a situation where cheating is impossible. ——This game reflects one's subconsciousness and decided the importance of the pieces. In general, no one knew which concept was their most important. ——Exactly. Part 6 ".....Aside from Nii and Shiro...." Shiro smiled, watching the gameboard reappear. Which meant, this was——the truth behind the [Hoax] designed by her brother. "I remember, even though it was the rules of the game, but I actually forgot about Master." This was unavoidable, having agreed to participate in the game. Jibril was frustrated at her own incompetence. For trying to eliminate her master's existence and also suspecting. "Bu, but why would Sora disappear? That was intentional right!?" Steph shouted out, having retrieved her lost memories. However, even so, Shiro didn't prompt about Sora's memories and intentions. ——No, maybe that kind of memory, didn't exist from the start. Shiro believed, that her brother didn't tell his intentions to himself. Because if that memory was taken away, the overall plan would fail. However, there was no problem——because now she [Understood] ——Reversi, it is also a Zero-sum game of limited decisions. It is easier to establish a sure win method than chess. If this was to be won with normal means, Sora would've just left it to Shiro's substitute. The reason he didn't do so, but still chose a Reversi showdown——was probably to allow Shiro to facilitate. .....In the void, there was some kind of presence that laid down a black piece. It was undecisive, hesitant..... Yes——this rule was as Sora planned, unable to skip a turn. Shiro's substitute——which meant white's turn. This was a move that would completely block Kurami, the move that Sora decided before losing his sight. An important piece was to be placed prematurely——hesitating was out of the question. .....Feeling admiration for her brother who cast away his body, Shiro picked up the piece with [Two]. Shiro completely understood. Not caring about the [Concept] stored in this piece with [Two] carved on it, or her brother's intentions. ——Even so, she said to the enemy with sympathy: "...This plan....Nobody could...guess it....Nii....is really strong." Shiro made the move while laughing. Placing the piece down, half of the game disk instantly dyed white. Kurami and the elven girl——and the gradually looming shadow of her brother, Jibril and Steph widened their eyes. Shiro desperately held back the tears that were starting to overflow. The memories to her brother's plans to this game, disappeared from Shiro's phone, Imanity and Jibril. From this point, inferring what the three pieces represent was easy, which is—— [Three]——the method to win. [Two]——absolute trust in Shiro. And [One] is—— "...Everything about Shiro..." These were the concepts that held more importance than Sora's own existence. Why was she sure of it was very simple. Because if one stood upside down——Shiro could conclude she felt that herself. It would mean that you aren't yourself anymore, like Shiro who lost her brother. The factors to losing her brother——the possibility losing was more important than himself——not self-evident. Understanding this fact, Sora knew he would disappear from the start, and entrusted Shiro's substitute to reverse the situation——this kind of scam, even if you could see it, can you deal with it? The black piece was placed uneasily on the gameboard that was gradually dying white. "...Okay, Nii...." A long-awaited return. "...Come back——!" Sora's figure began to materialize, as the piece with [One] got laid down on the board. ——left with a mere four piece on the gameboard for black, a sound resounded with [Winner: Sora]. At the same time when Shiro rushed over to the winner. Sora's first sentence was—— "Very good, Shiro, you've beaten me, I'm conscious of that——" Unhesitantly flying into the arms of Sora, her words were slightly faster than his. With tears flowing down, Shiro buried herself in her brother's arms and said: "...Sorry.....Sorry....I should've——done it earlier....!" Jibril and Steph who couldn't keep up with the situation stared dumbfoundedly. However, a voice came from an unexpected place. "Kurami! Kurami! Can you hear me!?" Shifting their sights, they saw.... The elven girl was desperately trying to call out to Kurami, while Kurami—— Steph covered her mouth and gasped. Kurami was like an empty shell——no, it was more like a corpse, weakly lying down on the chair. ....Steph didn't understand how Sora won the game. However, once you lose in this game that Sora designed, the results would be.... If one wrong move was made....Sora's fate would've been.....Steph shuddered after thinking about it. What did she lose?——or aside from flesh, everything else was lost? The person known as Kurami was already——nonexistent. (Wh, what kind of mentality does he have, to start by [Being behind]!?) ——This game is incomprehensible, Steph looked at Sora with fearful eyes. If she didn't personally witness the game, she wouldn't have imagined that the results would be this horrifying. Sora who was still hugging the crying Shiro, expressionlessly spoke. "——Okay, [We] have won, now this is the first request." Hearing his words, the elven girl lamented and pleaded to him: "Wait——I'll agree to whatever you do! So please——don't let Kurami be like this!!" But Sora responded to her with eyes that felt like they've lost everything. ".....If I had lost, Shiro would make the same plea, would you agree then?" Yes——this was after they've gone through [Acciente], mutually agreeing to the start of the game. If their positions were reversed, she would be scoffing at Shiro....then—— "I, I know this is a very selfish request! Bu, but the one who set the changing request was you! I, I'll be at your disposal——so please don't let Kurami....don't let Kurami be like this——!" However, Sora exposed a demonic and tyrant smile, and swiped his hand down as if cutting something. "Can't~Do? I'll determine her fate now, soooo——" "No——NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" "Request 1, regarding the memories plundered and memories stolen——to be returned back." "————Eh...?" This sentence was synchronized by everyone present. "——Cough!——fuuu...Fuuu...." Kurami regained consciousness, as if remembering to breathe. The girl rushed over to Kurami, who was awake and staring at the void. "Kurami! Kurami! Are you alright!? Do you know who you are!?" The girl desperately cried out, but Kurami's eyes were still dazed. After several times of shaking her, Kurami finally woke up. "Yes.....Un, I'm fine....But....." ——Kurami clung to her own shoulders, and stared at Sora, as if having a nightmare. "This man——I can't understand why Sora is fine." ——then, in accordance to the Oaths, the game that Jibril and the elven girl collaborated on exploded. Seeing this, the one who sweated the most was unexpectedly——Sora. "How, how dangerous......Even if it was Jibril's [Core], this request is too much....." ——it couldn't comply with something that was impossible to achieve. Which means that Sora's request, exhausted the gameboard's mana until it couldn't sustain. Looking at Sora, Jibril quietly walked forward. "......Master, this kind of game, please allow me to stop you as the identity of a servant." "I refuse, taking into account of possible future opponents ahead, this kind of danger is good enough." "It's just——" Caressing Shiro who was crying in his chest, Sora said: "In any case, this kind of method I used, is——kinda beyond my imagination." "——BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION?! THAT'S MY LINE!" Although Sora's memories were fixed in Kurami's body, she was unable to not suspect those memories. An ordinary human that defeated God, as well as making The Flügel yield——but, compared to these things. Exposed to Sora's [Past]. she couldn't bear to say it. The Oaths, allowed her to keep Sora's memories. With those memories flashing past her mind, Kurami shouted with an expression of fear: "How——can you remain sane after all [These experiences]!?" What basis did she had to shout this out? If she even managed to take over Sora's existence, then she should be able to see it. The matter, something——that Shiro didn't know. But to Sora who was conscious of that, he asked everyone present: "Eh? Do I look normal to anyone?" ——No. Everyone answered and shook their heads. Was it beyond the relationship of trust?——wrong. Placing the position of the [Factors that make oneself], that isn't [Trust]. That was already one's reason of existence. Neither a metaphor nor exaggeration, these two were indeed——indispensable. Twisted. Damaged. However, these linked them together, as if they were originally designed to be a pair. Kurami couldn't comprehend, but after coming into contact with Sora's past, she understood that in the situation of an accident. [Destiny]——using this word that was cheap and too ambiguous, there was no other word to describe that kind of memory. "...Okay, the second request." Yes, in accordance to the Oaths, their request——[Left with one]. The elven girl went on full alert, but Kurami who knew Sora's intentions, said "It's fine" and stopped her. "That elf——[Fiel], I want a right to tamper your memory. It's not a forceful one, but under this mutual understanding, Kurami should know who I mean right?" Kurami sighed and nodded. "....Yes, I understand——you want us to be double agents right?" Sora smiled to the dismay of everyone, while Kurami continued: "You knew that as long as you gave those memories to me, using the Oaths wasn't necessary anymore. Drawing me to be a companion, I'm really condescended." But as if having a mischievous face that pranked a child, Kurami leaked out a smile. "——okay, I accept it, it's very interesting isn't it——your [Plan]." Seeing her look, Fiel understood. Sora's intentions——share his memories, peep into Kurami's own, and letting it stay. He didn't need to use the Oaths and only needed to make a request——tampering the memories at the appropriate time.... Taking into account that it would affect the war against Eastern Union——or even the future in fact—— Obtaining all these conclusions, the elfen girl said: "I see.....I'll be frank——we've [Completely lost]." Jibril and Steph froze in place. The only other person who understood that was Shiro, who widened her eyes and said: ".....Nii....Amazing..." "Aren't I~? You can praise your capable Nii?" Sora playfully said. But Shiro who was still firmly buried in Sora's chest. "....Un....Nii is Shiro's proud.....Nii...." "Wuahh, for you to praise me so frankly, your brother will be embarrassed....Oh!" As if a string was cut, Sora fell on the ground with Shiro, apparently hit by fatigue. Steph and Jibril panicked and ran over, but Sora raised his hand and stopped them before saying: "——Shiro....It's almost time?" "...Un, ready....anytime." And Kurami held the elven girl's——Fiel's hand. "I'm sorry, Fiel.....I have to request something from you." "Nuuu, ah, okay, go ahead!" Sora, Shiro, Kurami the three of them took a deep breathe. "Wuahhhhh super~ scary ahhh I'm so sorry I won't do it again ahhh sorry Shiro~~!" "Wuuuu~......Guuuu......Guuuuu." "Wuaaaa~~~~~~~~Really———What exactly is that man~~~~~" The three of them stunned the crowd. Like kids who were repenting on their wrongdoings, they cried until they felt exhausted and slept—— Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter thank you. This show is amazing and this episode is one of the best that i have ever seen and there is a lot of information compressed in 20 min only (i can understand why though). I don't understand why people complain about it! Actually today's 20 minutes covered the complete 1st chapter of volume 2 of the Light novel... I only posted the 5th and 6th part of chapter one.... believe me, a LOT of information was lost during todays episode. Well, we can only hope that Bluray version expands the episode. It was clearly visible that they tried their best to include as much as possible while keeping current and next episode cohesive. Apart from that... wow. Just wow. Now excuse me, gotta read 3rd novel... |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:27 PM
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ollythirteen said: To its credit this show wasn't an easy drop like Mahouka or Black Bullet. The ironic thing, though, is this show is about games with main characters that never lose. In real life people who never lose at games are pretty boring to watch.. So I guess dropping this was the natural progression of things... And that's why anime isn't real life... People like you who try to make realistic comparisons are silly, anime is FICTION, the real question you should be asking yourself is: "is the show interesting for me?" not "is this show realistic enough for me?" I'm not hating on your tastes, but when people start to compare anime to real life it just gets plain silly. If you really don't like the show, then that's that, and it's your opinion and people should respect it. With that said, I enjoyed this episode, I loved the ending scene where they all cried. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:30 PM
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Aurioch said: DarkMoonWolf said: J87 said: DarkMoonWolf said: Kitoge said: Oh okay...actually wait...how'd they see the board then? I thought a spell was made to conceal it from them? Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: Shiro placed the Reversi piece engraved with [Three] in her hands. She stared at the empty space——no, staring at the invisible yet existant gameboard—— This was unfortunately a fight for 32 Reversi pieces that contains one's concept. The remaining pieces for both side were small in amount——meaning it was very important. Because they were pieces that once used would cause them to lose, they kept it. However, this rule was set—— was set by the challenged, in that case her brother. This meant that the game's advancement, even his disappearance was very meaningful. Which means——Shiro closed her eyes and thought. ——Why would her brother leave her alone? She was puzzled. However, it was definite course of action if the answer was known. The first of several very simple reasons. He would deliberately give some memories to the opponent, temporarily placing him on the side of the losing—— "....That sort of thing....Shiro...Can't do this...." Shiro made this conclusion with a sad smile after thinking for a moment. Her brother's actions, if performed by Shiro......She would definitely be unable to remain sane. Just because her brother disappeared from her side, she suspected her brother's existence. ——It was okay if she was forgotten. ——Forgetting about her brother——Shiro believed that her spirit wouldn't be able to remain normal. Shiro stared at the invisible, untouchable gameboard. The gameboard was really invisible, but—— Her brother hated sunlight, so she could discern that he wouldn't sit by the window. Her brother, whether he was sleeping or sitting, would always give Shiro the corner of the wall. Because Shiro would feel lonely if there was a wide space, her brother would always block the wide spaces for her. Although she couldn't see the gameboard, Everything was exposed to her. Her brother's habit, her brother's actions, everything related to her brother, her brother's sitting position, and even the space left for Shiro could be seen. (......Here.....Nii is....Here...) Shiro was convinced of where her brother was sitting, even if it was empty. Shiro's eye started feeling hot, but she forced herself back and continued thinking. (....After this....the second....at the same time.....the biggest....reason.) Shiro gripped the Reversi piece written with [Three], on the white side. Whether her brother is [White or black], this question was certain. Because he would always leave the last piece for [Shiro]——it was definitely white.[1] The invisible, and unknown game. She didn't have memories from the start, so she didn't know what was happening. However, her brother would deliberately lose and attain the step to allow Shiro[2] to win..... And after the opponent found out that they fell under Sora's plan and got induced to place a wrong move.... Then, reversing the position, her brother would choose the most optimal move. All of this speculation——needed three moves to win. Only this....You can do it! Shiro waved her hand downwards with confidence———— * Keng*, a sound that couldn't be identified rang in ears of the three people. Following that... "PAIN——!" "Ouch....Wh,what is going on!" Shiro, as well as Steph and Jibril held their heads, having a sudden splitting headache. Like echoes, the brain let out a murmur. The original gameboard which couldn't be seen appeared, and with a patter patter sound, the black board gradually dyed white. Then——the original memories a day and a half ago———flowed back in——— References 1 - Shiro means white in Japanese 2 - Ambiguous meaning, could mean white piece or Shiro I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: [19th. Daytime] Shiro and Sora were playing games in the throne hall. "Ahh, you've finally came, why keep me waiting?" Her brother said, gazing at the two girls in front of him. Wearing a black veil and black-haired, Kurami. And an elven girl who had conspicuously long ears and didn't bother to hide it. "....A tone as if knowing we were coming——of course....." Sora smiled and replied to Kurami's words: "Yes, I know your purpose for coming here, and anytime is possible." "Then hurry up, I must make you disappear and hand over the Imanity's chess piece." "Shiro, listen carefully." "....Un?" "I believe you." [19th. Evening].... "————Just like that Jibril. Can you do it?" Her master described an insanely terrifying game, but Jibril answered: "——Sorry, but I can't do it, such a massive game transformation——" "I didn't ask you to do it alone, you are to do it with the elven girl Kurami brought with her, okay?" Sora brought the topic to the elven girl who had not introduced herself. "...Asking me to cooperate with The Flügel? Please allow me to rightfully decline~?" "What a coincidence, I'll politely decline the invitation too~?" Sparks flew between their gazes, but Sora had a disinterested look. "Really? Then I don't accept the game, please go back okay?" Sora coldly rejected her. Kurami then said to the elven girl: "...You said you wanted to help me right?" "Of course, but to want me to work with that devil...Guuuu....Fine, I promise." ".....Nii." Hearing her brother's specified rules, Shiro nervously looked up at her brother. "Shiro, we are indispensable." [19th. Nighttime]..... Holding unto Jibril's Word connector's [Core], the elven girl complained: "This kind of elemental usage is as if you wanted to bomb the Elemental Gallery. Is your brain even normal." "I'm sorry, but the current trend is draw something out of the Elemental Gallery. It appears you long-eared people have mistaken for a bomb, next time I'll write a [Lower energy] note to her." "You all .....Who can you guys live in peace with?" "Because when I think of a certain Flügel in the war, shooting something that caused thousands of lives....Usually having a superiority complex, but to fire out [Heaven's strike], how naive." "Recognize yourself, if you had not deployed flying restriction magic, we wouldn't have cared about you, so this is your own demise. I merely swelled a package upon seeing that magic, and even if I've accidentally killed every one of you, what is wrong with it?" "Enough, both of you shut it and go back to work! Its almost a day!!" [20th. Daytime]....... "....Okay, it really exceeded a day." Sora stared at Jibril with cold eyes. While Kurami used the same kind of eyes to stare at her partner. "So, so sorryyyyyy, it's because of this long-eared girl that caused the loop to almost go out of control several of times." "Ev, everytime when she vetoed the loss of control, I had to recode everything!!" Sighing, Sora propped his hand on his cheek and said: "Nevermind, uh——then let me re-explain the rules." "...Nii." "Shiro, Nii is happy that you are worried, but rest assured. You should understand right?" "Shiro, we are bound by a [Promise]." "Shiro, we'll always win before the game starts." "——we'll get the last piece of the puzzle needed to swallow the Eastern Union." "...Un." Shiro nodded as Sora caressed her head and said: "——okay, should we begin?" [20th. Nighttime]..... "...........!" Shiro firmly held onto the shoulder of Sora's. Her left hand that was clenched firmly, pierced the skin and caused it to bleed. Looking at the scene ahead where her brother's memories, hands, legs and five senses were taken away, Shiro could only watch. Her brother believed Shiro, and Shiro in return trusted him. She could only wait. Although Steph was hesitant of stopping the game, she couldn't bear looking at that remorseful look of Shiro's. Using her hands to cover her face, she started crying. Jibril was speechless as she saw the determined face of her Masters. She widened her eyes, watching her every move. "——okay, it almost ended." Kurami said while holding her piece. Kurami's state wasn't exactly unharmed either. Having several segments of memory that didn't exist to flow into her brain was horrible. She was also conscious of the fact that her memories were taken away. However, the gameboard was mostly black——Kurami had an overwhelming advantage. "....Your memories are quite interesting, but I still don't understand your intentions." Even though she had obviously snatched away Sora's memories, she still didn't know about his real intentions. Sora's memories——flashed in her mind, causing Kurami to grimace in pain. "You are left with three pieces and I still don't know your purpose. This is surprising, your purpose in actuality constitutes your existence......But no matter what——I'll finish this." With a *Pa!*, Kurami placed a piece. "This should end it." Saying these words, Sora's figure disappeared from her eyes. For the three people that were watching from the side, they had bleak expressions, as if they weren't aware of it. Oblivious to Kurami and the gameboard, they staggered out of the room. This happened because they were also participants, as their memories disappeared. Then, with Shiro alone, she went on the bed and quietly fell asleep. ".....Since no one is to replace, and Sora had disappeared, [Unable to continue]——this is my win." In the end, she still couldn't guess out Sora's real intentions. Although the memories he gave out made her depressed, but so what—— "Kurami......Something isn't quite right." The gameboard should have made a victory declaration. "What is going on? Didn't you say that nothing was done to the game?" "I, I'm not wrong! This was modified by me!" "Then what is going on——unless this does not fulfill the [Unable to continue] !?" Suddenly, Kurami saw the three pieces left by Sora. Written on it was one, two and three. The most important pieces that constitutes oneself. "——wait, if his existence disappeared, then what do those three represent?" Unless——they were more important than [His own existence]. In order to have a better chance of winning? How could there be such a thing——however, in that case, it explained why she hasn't gotten the memory regarding Sora's intentions. "Kurami, what do we do?" "Still can do what?" If they wanted to forcefully end the game, The Flügel's strength was required. "My memory is also being in a state of elimination——we can only wait!" Kurami said so, feeling angry that the game was still ongoing. "...What, just what is that man doing——!" She easily defeated the man and made him disappear. But in his memories that Kurami had taken away, it felt as if she saw Sora giving a victory smile in the void———which made her feet shiver uncontrollably. ———....... Indeed, the [Hoax] Sora designed. It was what Kurami had suspected, that from the start Sora had the advantage. However——no one knew what those were. Even the one who made the game, using elven magic——couldn't comprehend it. Because this scam, was a cheat that was established in a situation where cheating is impossible. ——This game reflects one's subconsciousness and decided the importance of the pieces. In general, no one knew which concept was their most important. ——Exactly. Part 6 ".....Aside from Nii and Shiro...." Shiro smiled, watching the gameboard reappear. Which meant, this was——the truth behind the [Hoax] designed by her brother. "I remember, even though it was the rules of the game, but I actually forgot about Master." This was unavoidable, having agreed to participate in the game. Jibril was frustrated at her own incompetence. For trying to eliminate her master's existence and also suspecting. "Bu, but why would Sora disappear? That was intentional right!?" Steph shouted out, having retrieved her lost memories. However, even so, Shiro didn't prompt about Sora's memories and intentions. ——No, maybe that kind of memory, didn't exist from the start. Shiro believed, that her brother didn't tell his intentions to himself. Because if that memory was taken away, the overall plan would fail. However, there was no problem——because now she [Understood] ——Reversi, it is also a Zero-sum game of limited decisions. It is easier to establish a sure win method than chess. If this was to be won with normal means, Sora would've just left it to Shiro's substitute. The reason he didn't do so, but still chose a Reversi showdown——was probably to allow Shiro to facilitate. .....In the void, there was some kind of presence that laid down a black piece. It was undecisive, hesitant..... Yes——this rule was as Sora planned, unable to skip a turn. Shiro's substitute——which meant white's turn. This was a move that would completely block Kurami, the move that Sora decided before losing his sight. An important piece was to be placed prematurely——hesitating was out of the question. .....Feeling admiration for her brother who cast away his body, Shiro picked up the piece with [Two]. Shiro completely understood. Not caring about the [Concept] stored in this piece with [Two] carved on it, or her brother's intentions. ——Even so, she said to the enemy with sympathy: "...This plan....Nobody could...guess it....Nii....is really strong." Shiro made the move while laughing. Placing the piece down, half of the game disk instantly dyed white. Kurami and the elven girl——and the gradually looming shadow of her brother, Jibril and Steph widened their eyes. Shiro desperately held back the tears that were starting to overflow. The memories to her brother's plans to this game, disappeared from Shiro's phone, Imanity and Jibril. From this point, inferring what the three pieces represent was easy, which is—— [Three]——the method to win. [Two]——absolute trust in Shiro. And [One] is—— "...Everything about Shiro..." These were the concepts that held more importance than Sora's own existence. Why was she sure of it was very simple. Because if one stood upside down——Shiro could conclude she felt that herself. It would mean that you aren't yourself anymore, like Shiro who lost her brother. The factors to losing her brother——the possibility losing was more important than himself——not self-evident. Understanding this fact, Sora knew he would disappear from the start, and entrusted Shiro's substitute to reverse the situation——this kind of scam, even if you could see it, can you deal with it? The black piece was placed uneasily on the gameboard that was gradually dying white. "...Okay, Nii...." A long-awaited return. "...Come back——!" Sora's figure began to materialize, as the piece with [One] got laid down on the board. ——left with a mere four piece on the gameboard for black, a sound resounded with [Winner: Sora]. At the same time when Shiro rushed over to the winner. Sora's first sentence was—— "Very good, Shiro, you've beaten me, I'm conscious of that——" Unhesitantly flying into the arms of Sora, her words were slightly faster than his. With tears flowing down, Shiro buried herself in her brother's arms and said: "...Sorry.....Sorry....I should've——done it earlier....!" Jibril and Steph who couldn't keep up with the situation stared dumbfoundedly. However, a voice came from an unexpected place. "Kurami! Kurami! Can you hear me!?" Shifting their sights, they saw.... The elven girl was desperately trying to call out to Kurami, while Kurami—— Steph covered her mouth and gasped. Kurami was like an empty shell——no, it was more like a corpse, weakly lying down on the chair. ....Steph didn't understand how Sora won the game. However, once you lose in this game that Sora designed, the results would be.... If one wrong move was made....Sora's fate would've been.....Steph shuddered after thinking about it. What did she lose?——or aside from flesh, everything else was lost? The person known as Kurami was already——nonexistent. (Wh, what kind of mentality does he have, to start by [Being behind]!?) ——This game is incomprehensible, Steph looked at Sora with fearful eyes. If she didn't personally witness the game, she wouldn't have imagined that the results would be this horrifying. Sora who was still hugging the crying Shiro, expressionlessly spoke. "——Okay, [We] have won, now this is the first request." Hearing his words, the elven girl lamented and pleaded to him: "Wait——I'll agree to whatever you do! So please——don't let Kurami be like this!!" But Sora responded to her with eyes that felt like they've lost everything. ".....If I had lost, Shiro would make the same plea, would you agree then?" Yes——this was after they've gone through [Acciente], mutually agreeing to the start of the game. If their positions were reversed, she would be scoffing at Shiro....then—— "I, I know this is a very selfish request! Bu, but the one who set the changing request was you! I, I'll be at your disposal——so please don't let Kurami....don't let Kurami be like this——!" However, Sora exposed a demonic and tyrant smile, and swiped his hand down as if cutting something. "Can't~Do? I'll determine her fate now, soooo——" "No——NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" "Request 1, regarding the memories plundered and memories stolen——to be returned back." "————Eh...?" This sentence was synchronized by everyone present. "——Cough!——fuuu...Fuuu...." Kurami regained consciousness, as if remembering to breathe. The girl rushed over to Kurami, who was awake and staring at the void. "Kurami! Kurami! Are you alright!? Do you know who you are!?" The girl desperately cried out, but Kurami's eyes were still dazed. After several times of shaking her, Kurami finally woke up. "Yes.....Un, I'm fine....But....." ——Kurami clung to her own shoulders, and stared at Sora, as if having a nightmare. "This man——I can't understand why Sora is fine." ——then, in accordance to the Oaths, the game that Jibril and the elven girl collaborated on exploded. Seeing this, the one who sweated the most was unexpectedly——Sora. "How, how dangerous......Even if it was Jibril's [Core], this request is too much....." ——it couldn't comply with something that was impossible to achieve. Which means that Sora's request, exhausted the gameboard's mana until it couldn't sustain. Looking at Sora, Jibril quietly walked forward. "......Master, this kind of game, please allow me to stop you as the identity of a servant." "I refuse, taking into account of possible future opponents ahead, this kind of danger is good enough." "It's just——" Caressing Shiro who was crying in his chest, Sora said: "In any case, this kind of method I used, is——kinda beyond my imagination." "——BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION?! THAT'S MY LINE!" Although Sora's memories were fixed in Kurami's body, she was unable to not suspect those memories. An ordinary human that defeated God, as well as making The Flügel yield——but, compared to these things. Exposed to Sora's [Past]. she couldn't bear to say it. The Oaths, allowed her to keep Sora's memories. With those memories flashing past her mind, Kurami shouted with an expression of fear: "How——can you remain sane after all [These experiences]!?" What basis did she had to shout this out? If she even managed to take over Sora's existence, then she should be able to see it. The matter, something——that Shiro didn't know. But to Sora who was conscious of that, he asked everyone present: "Eh? Do I look normal to anyone?" ——No. Everyone answered and shook their heads. Was it beyond the relationship of trust?——wrong. Placing the position of the [Factors that make oneself], that isn't [Trust]. That was already one's reason of existence. Neither a metaphor nor exaggeration, these two were indeed——indispensable. Twisted. Damaged. However, these linked them together, as if they were originally designed to be a pair. Kurami couldn't comprehend, but after coming into contact with Sora's past, she understood that in the situation of an accident. [Destiny]——using this word that was cheap and too ambiguous, there was no other word to describe that kind of memory. "...Okay, the second request." Yes, in accordance to the Oaths, their request——[Left with one]. The elven girl went on full alert, but Kurami who knew Sora's intentions, said "It's fine" and stopped her. "That elf——[Fiel], I want a right to tamper your memory. It's not a forceful one, but under this mutual understanding, Kurami should know who I mean right?" Kurami sighed and nodded. "....Yes, I understand——you want us to be double agents right?" Sora smiled to the dismay of everyone, while Kurami continued: "You knew that as long as you gave those memories to me, using the Oaths wasn't necessary anymore. Drawing me to be a companion, I'm really condescended." But as if having a mischievous face that pranked a child, Kurami leaked out a smile. "——okay, I accept it, it's very interesting isn't it——your [Plan]." Seeing her look, Fiel understood. Sora's intentions——share his memories, peep into Kurami's own, and letting it stay. He didn't need to use the Oaths and only needed to make a request——tampering the memories at the appropriate time.... Taking into account that it would affect the war against Eastern Union——or even the future in fact—— Obtaining all these conclusions, the elfen girl said: "I see.....I'll be frank——we've [Completely lost]." Jibril and Steph froze in place. The only other person who understood that was Shiro, who widened her eyes and said: ".....Nii....Amazing..." "Aren't I~? You can praise your capable Nii?" Sora playfully said. But Shiro who was still firmly buried in Sora's chest. "....Un....Nii is Shiro's proud.....Nii...." "Wuahh, for you to praise me so frankly, your brother will be embarrassed....Oh!" As if a string was cut, Sora fell on the ground with Shiro, apparently hit by fatigue. Steph and Jibril panicked and ran over, but Sora raised his hand and stopped them before saying: "——Shiro....It's almost time?" "...Un, ready....anytime." And Kurami held the elven girl's——Fiel's hand. "I'm sorry, Fiel.....I have to request something from you." "Nuuu, ah, okay, go ahead!" Sora, Shiro, Kurami the three of them took a deep breathe. "Wuahhhhh super~ scary ahhh I'm so sorry I won't do it again ahhh sorry Shiro~~!" "Wuuuu~......Guuuu......Guuuuu." "Wuaaaa~~~~~~~~Really———What exactly is that man~~~~~" The three of them stunned the crowd. Like kids who were repenting on their wrongdoings, they cried until they felt exhausted and slept—— Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter thank you. This show is amazing and this episode is one of the best that i have ever seen and there is a lot of information compressed in 20 min only (i can understand why though). I don't understand why people complain about it! Actually today's 20 minutes covered the complete 1st chapter of volume 2 of the Light novel... I only posted the 5th and 6th part of chapter one.... believe me, a LOT of information was lost during todays episode. I feel sad because they didn't adapt it all. I would have wanted to wait for one more episode, but oh well.. This fight was great in LN, but it was meh in todays episode.. And that meh was still pretty good. But I felt like they rushed it quite a bit. |
Ad Astra Per Aspera |
Jun 4, 2014 2:33 PM
#133
Yes! Sora is back! I love this episode and this anime so much. So emotional~ *tears* But that ending though. LOL |
Jun 4, 2014 2:34 PM
#134
Aurioch said: DarkMoonWolf said: J87 said: DarkMoonWolf said: thank you. This show is amazing and this episode is one of the best that i have ever seen and there is a lot of information compressed in 20 min only (i can understand why though).Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: Shiro placed the Reversi piece engraved with [Three] in her hands. She stared at the empty space——no, staring at the invisible yet existant gameboard—— This was unfortunately a fight for 32 Reversi pieces that contains one's concept. The remaining pieces for both side were small in amount——meaning it was very important. Because they were pieces that once used would cause them to lose, they kept it. However, this rule was set—— was set by the challenged, in that case her brother. This meant that the game's advancement, even his disappearance was very meaningful. Which means——Shiro closed her eyes and thought. ——Why would her brother leave her alone? She was puzzled. However, it was definite course of action if the answer was known. The first of several very simple reasons. He would deliberately give some memories to the opponent, temporarily placing him on the side of the losing—— "....That sort of thing....Shiro...Can't do this...." Shiro made this conclusion with a sad smile after thinking for a moment. Her brother's actions, if performed by Shiro......She would definitely be unable to remain sane. Just because her brother disappeared from her side, she suspected her brother's existence. ——It was okay if she was forgotten. ——Forgetting about her brother——Shiro believed that her spirit wouldn't be able to remain normal. Shiro stared at the invisible, untouchable gameboard. The gameboard was really invisible, but—— Her brother hated sunlight, so she could discern that he wouldn't sit by the window. Her brother, whether he was sleeping or sitting, would always give Shiro the corner of the wall. Because Shiro would feel lonely if there was a wide space, her brother would always block the wide spaces for her. Although she couldn't see the gameboard, Everything was exposed to her. Her brother's habit, her brother's actions, everything related to her brother, her brother's sitting position, and even the space left for Shiro could be seen. (......Here.....Nii is....Here...) Shiro was convinced of where her brother was sitting, even if it was empty. Shiro's eye started feeling hot, but she forced herself back and continued thinking. (....After this....the second....at the same time.....the biggest....reason.) Shiro gripped the Reversi piece written with [Three], on the white side. Whether her brother is [White or black], this question was certain. Because he would always leave the last piece for [Shiro]——it was definitely white.[1] The invisible, and unknown game. She didn't have memories from the start, so she didn't know what was happening. However, her brother would deliberately lose and attain the step to allow Shiro[2] to win..... And after the opponent found out that they fell under Sora's plan and got induced to place a wrong move.... Then, reversing the position, her brother would choose the most optimal move. All of this speculation——needed three moves to win. Only this....You can do it! Shiro waved her hand downwards with confidence———— * Keng*, a sound that couldn't be identified rang in ears of the three people. Following that... "PAIN——!" "Ouch....Wh,what is going on!" Shiro, as well as Steph and Jibril held their heads, having a sudden splitting headache. Like echoes, the brain let out a murmur. The original gameboard which couldn't be seen appeared, and with a patter patter sound, the black board gradually dyed white. Then——the original memories a day and a half ago———flowed back in——— References 1 - Shiro means white in Japanese 2 - Ambiguous meaning, could mean white piece or Shiro I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: [19th. Daytime] Shiro and Sora were playing games in the throne hall. "Ahh, you've finally came, why keep me waiting?" Her brother said, gazing at the two girls in front of him. Wearing a black veil and black-haired, Kurami. And an elven girl who had conspicuously long ears and didn't bother to hide it. "....A tone as if knowing we were coming——of course....." Sora smiled and replied to Kurami's words: "Yes, I know your purpose for coming here, and anytime is possible." "Then hurry up, I must make you disappear and hand over the Imanity's chess piece." "Shiro, listen carefully." "....Un?" "I believe you." [19th. Evening].... "————Just like that Jibril. Can you do it?" Her master described an insanely terrifying game, but Jibril answered: "——Sorry, but I can't do it, such a massive game transformation——" "I didn't ask you to do it alone, you are to do it with the elven girl Kurami brought with her, okay?" Sora brought the topic to the elven girl who had not introduced herself. "...Asking me to cooperate with The Flügel? Please allow me to rightfully decline~?" "What a coincidence, I'll politely decline the invitation too~?" Sparks flew between their gazes, but Sora had a disinterested look. "Really? Then I don't accept the game, please go back okay?" Sora coldly rejected her. Kurami then said to the elven girl: "...You said you wanted to help me right?" "Of course, but to want me to work with that devil...Guuuu....Fine, I promise." ".....Nii." Hearing her brother's specified rules, Shiro nervously looked up at her brother. "Shiro, we are indispensable." [19th. Nighttime]..... Holding unto Jibril's Word connector's [Core], the elven girl complained: "This kind of elemental usage is as if you wanted to bomb the Elemental Gallery. Is your brain even normal." "I'm sorry, but the current trend is draw something out of the Elemental Gallery. It appears you long-eared people have mistaken for a bomb, next time I'll write a [Lower energy] note to her." "You all .....Who can you guys live in peace with?" "Because when I think of a certain Flügel in the war, shooting something that caused thousands of lives....Usually having a superiority complex, but to fire out [Heaven's strike], how naive." "Recognize yourself, if you had not deployed flying restriction magic, we wouldn't have cared about you, so this is your own demise. I merely swelled a package upon seeing that magic, and even if I've accidentally killed every one of you, what is wrong with it?" "Enough, both of you shut it and go back to work! Its almost a day!!" [20th. Daytime]....... "....Okay, it really exceeded a day." Sora stared at Jibril with cold eyes. While Kurami used the same kind of eyes to stare at her partner. "So, so sorryyyyyy, it's because of this long-eared girl that caused the loop to almost go out of control several of times." "Ev, everytime when she vetoed the loss of control, I had to recode everything!!" Sighing, Sora propped his hand on his cheek and said: "Nevermind, uh——then let me re-explain the rules." "...Nii." "Shiro, Nii is happy that you are worried, but rest assured. You should understand right?" "Shiro, we are bound by a [Promise]." "Shiro, we'll always win before the game starts." "——we'll get the last piece of the puzzle needed to swallow the Eastern Union." "...Un." Shiro nodded as Sora caressed her head and said: "——okay, should we begin?" [20th. Nighttime]..... "...........!" Shiro firmly held onto the shoulder of Sora's. Her left hand that was clenched firmly, pierced the skin and caused it to bleed. Looking at the scene ahead where her brother's memories, hands, legs and five senses were taken away, Shiro could only watch. Her brother believed Shiro, and Shiro in return trusted him. She could only wait. Although Steph was hesitant of stopping the game, she couldn't bear looking at that remorseful look of Shiro's. Using her hands to cover her face, she started crying. Jibril was speechless as she saw the determined face of her Masters. She widened her eyes, watching her every move. "——okay, it almost ended." Kurami said while holding her piece. Kurami's state wasn't exactly unharmed either. Having several segments of memory that didn't exist to flow into her brain was horrible. She was also conscious of the fact that her memories were taken away. However, the gameboard was mostly black——Kurami had an overwhelming advantage. "....Your memories are quite interesting, but I still don't understand your intentions." Even though she had obviously snatched away Sora's memories, she still didn't know about his real intentions. Sora's memories——flashed in her mind, causing Kurami to grimace in pain. "You are left with three pieces and I still don't know your purpose. This is surprising, your purpose in actuality constitutes your existence......But no matter what——I'll finish this." With a *Pa!*, Kurami placed a piece. "This should end it." Saying these words, Sora's figure disappeared from her eyes. For the three people that were watching from the side, they had bleak expressions, as if they weren't aware of it. Oblivious to Kurami and the gameboard, they staggered out of the room. This happened because they were also participants, as their memories disappeared. Then, with Shiro alone, she went on the bed and quietly fell asleep. ".....Since no one is to replace, and Sora had disappeared, [Unable to continue]——this is my win." In the end, she still couldn't guess out Sora's real intentions. Although the memories he gave out made her depressed, but so what—— "Kurami......Something isn't quite right." The gameboard should have made a victory declaration. "What is going on? Didn't you say that nothing was done to the game?" "I, I'm not wrong! This was modified by me!" "Then what is going on——unless this does not fulfill the [Unable to continue] !?" Suddenly, Kurami saw the three pieces left by Sora. Written on it was one, two and three. The most important pieces that constitutes oneself. "——wait, if his existence disappeared, then what do those three represent?" Unless——they were more important than [His own existence]. In order to have a better chance of winning? How could there be such a thing——however, in that case, it explained why she hasn't gotten the memory regarding Sora's intentions. "Kurami, what do we do?" "Still can do what?" If they wanted to forcefully end the game, The Flügel's strength was required. "My memory is also being in a state of elimination——we can only wait!" Kurami said so, feeling angry that the game was still ongoing. "...What, just what is that man doing——!" She easily defeated the man and made him disappear. But in his memories that Kurami had taken away, it felt as if she saw Sora giving a victory smile in the void———which made her feet shiver uncontrollably. ———....... Indeed, the [Hoax] Sora designed. It was what Kurami had suspected, that from the start Sora had the advantage. However——no one knew what those were. Even the one who made the game, using elven magic——couldn't comprehend it. Because this scam, was a cheat that was established in a situation where cheating is impossible. ——This game reflects one's subconsciousness and decided the importance of the pieces. In general, no one knew which concept was their most important. ——Exactly. Part 6 ".....Aside from Nii and Shiro...." Shiro smiled, watching the gameboard reappear. Which meant, this was——the truth behind the [Hoax] designed by her brother. "I remember, even though it was the rules of the game, but I actually forgot about Master." This was unavoidable, having agreed to participate in the game. Jibril was frustrated at her own incompetence. For trying to eliminate her master's existence and also suspecting. "Bu, but why would Sora disappear? That was intentional right!?" Steph shouted out, having retrieved her lost memories. However, even so, Shiro didn't prompt about Sora's memories and intentions. ——No, maybe that kind of memory, didn't exist from the start. Shiro believed, that her brother didn't tell his intentions to himself. Because if that memory was taken away, the overall plan would fail. However, there was no problem——because now she [Understood] ——Reversi, it is also a Zero-sum game of limited decisions. It is easier to establish a sure win method than chess. If this was to be won with normal means, Sora would've just left it to Shiro's substitute. The reason he didn't do so, but still chose a Reversi showdown——was probably to allow Shiro to facilitate. .....In the void, there was some kind of presence that laid down a black piece. It was undecisive, hesitant..... Yes——this rule was as Sora planned, unable to skip a turn. Shiro's substitute——which meant white's turn. This was a move that would completely block Kurami, the move that Sora decided before losing his sight. An important piece was to be placed prematurely——hesitating was out of the question. .....Feeling admiration for her brother who cast away his body, Shiro picked up the piece with [Two]. Shiro completely understood. Not caring about the [Concept] stored in this piece with [Two] carved on it, or her brother's intentions. ——Even so, she said to the enemy with sympathy: "...This plan....Nobody could...guess it....Nii....is really strong." Shiro made the move while laughing. Placing the piece down, half of the game disk instantly dyed white. Kurami and the elven girl——and the gradually looming shadow of her brother, Jibril and Steph widened their eyes. Shiro desperately held back the tears that were starting to overflow. The memories to her brother's plans to this game, disappeared from Shiro's phone, Imanity and Jibril. From this point, inferring what the three pieces represent was easy, which is—— [Three]——the method to win. [Two]——absolute trust in Shiro. And [One] is—— "...Everything about Shiro..." These were the concepts that held more importance than Sora's own existence. Why was she sure of it was very simple. Because if one stood upside down——Shiro could conclude she felt that herself. It would mean that you aren't yourself anymore, like Shiro who lost her brother. The factors to losing her brother——the possibility losing was more important than himself——not self-evident. Understanding this fact, Sora knew he would disappear from the start, and entrusted Shiro's substitute to reverse the situation——this kind of scam, even if you could see it, can you deal with it? The black piece was placed uneasily on the gameboard that was gradually dying white. "...Okay, Nii...." A long-awaited return. "...Come back——!" Sora's figure began to materialize, as the piece with [One] got laid down on the board. ——left with a mere four piece on the gameboard for black, a sound resounded with [Winner: Sora]. At the same time when Shiro rushed over to the winner. Sora's first sentence was—— "Very good, Shiro, you've beaten me, I'm conscious of that——" Unhesitantly flying into the arms of Sora, her words were slightly faster than his. With tears flowing down, Shiro buried herself in her brother's arms and said: "...Sorry.....Sorry....I should've——done it earlier....!" Jibril and Steph who couldn't keep up with the situation stared dumbfoundedly. However, a voice came from an unexpected place. "Kurami! Kurami! Can you hear me!?" Shifting their sights, they saw.... The elven girl was desperately trying to call out to Kurami, while Kurami—— Steph covered her mouth and gasped. Kurami was like an empty shell——no, it was more like a corpse, weakly lying down on the chair. ....Steph didn't understand how Sora won the game. However, once you lose in this game that Sora designed, the results would be.... If one wrong move was made....Sora's fate would've been.....Steph shuddered after thinking about it. What did she lose?——or aside from flesh, everything else was lost? The person known as Kurami was already——nonexistent. (Wh, what kind of mentality does he have, to start by [Being behind]!?) ——This game is incomprehensible, Steph looked at Sora with fearful eyes. If she didn't personally witness the game, she wouldn't have imagined that the results would be this horrifying. Sora who was still hugging the crying Shiro, expressionlessly spoke. "——Okay, [We] have won, now this is the first request." Hearing his words, the elven girl lamented and pleaded to him: "Wait——I'll agree to whatever you do! So please——don't let Kurami be like this!!" But Sora responded to her with eyes that felt like they've lost everything. ".....If I had lost, Shiro would make the same plea, would you agree then?" Yes——this was after they've gone through [Acciente], mutually agreeing to the start of the game. If their positions were reversed, she would be scoffing at Shiro....then—— "I, I know this is a very selfish request! Bu, but the one who set the changing request was you! I, I'll be at your disposal——so please don't let Kurami....don't let Kurami be like this——!" However, Sora exposed a demonic and tyrant smile, and swiped his hand down as if cutting something. "Can't~Do? I'll determine her fate now, soooo——" "No——NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" "Request 1, regarding the memories plundered and memories stolen——to be returned back." "————Eh...?" This sentence was synchronized by everyone present. "——Cough!——fuuu...Fuuu...." Kurami regained consciousness, as if remembering to breathe. The girl rushed over to Kurami, who was awake and staring at the void. "Kurami! Kurami! Are you alright!? Do you know who you are!?" The girl desperately cried out, but Kurami's eyes were still dazed. After several times of shaking her, Kurami finally woke up. "Yes.....Un, I'm fine....But....." ——Kurami clung to her own shoulders, and stared at Sora, as if having a nightmare. "This man——I can't understand why Sora is fine." ——then, in accordance to the Oaths, the game that Jibril and the elven girl collaborated on exploded. Seeing this, the one who sweated the most was unexpectedly——Sora. "How, how dangerous......Even if it was Jibril's [Core], this request is too much....." ——it couldn't comply with something that was impossible to achieve. Which means that Sora's request, exhausted the gameboard's mana until it couldn't sustain. Looking at Sora, Jibril quietly walked forward. "......Master, this kind of game, please allow me to stop you as the identity of a servant." "I refuse, taking into account of possible future opponents ahead, this kind of danger is good enough." "It's just——" Caressing Shiro who was crying in his chest, Sora said: "In any case, this kind of method I used, is——kinda beyond my imagination." "——BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION?! THAT'S MY LINE!" Although Sora's memories were fixed in Kurami's body, she was unable to not suspect those memories. An ordinary human that defeated God, as well as making The Flügel yield——but, compared to these things. Exposed to Sora's [Past]. she couldn't bear to say it. The Oaths, allowed her to keep Sora's memories. With those memories flashing past her mind, Kurami shouted with an expression of fear: "How——can you remain sane after all [These experiences]!?" What basis did she had to shout this out? If she even managed to take over Sora's existence, then she should be able to see it. The matter, something——that Shiro didn't know. But to Sora who was conscious of that, he asked everyone present: "Eh? Do I look normal to anyone?" ——No. Everyone answered and shook their heads. Was it beyond the relationship of trust?——wrong. Placing the position of the [Factors that make oneself], that isn't [Trust]. That was already one's reason of existence. Neither a metaphor nor exaggeration, these two were indeed——indispensable. Twisted. Damaged. However, these linked them together, as if they were originally designed to be a pair. Kurami couldn't comprehend, but after coming into contact with Sora's past, she understood that in the situation of an accident. [Destiny]——using this word that was cheap and too ambiguous, there was no other word to describe that kind of memory. "...Okay, the second request." Yes, in accordance to the Oaths, their request——[Left with one]. The elven girl went on full alert, but Kurami who knew Sora's intentions, said "It's fine" and stopped her. "That elf——[Fiel], I want a right to tamper your memory. It's not a forceful one, but under this mutual understanding, Kurami should know who I mean right?" Kurami sighed and nodded. "....Yes, I understand——you want us to be double agents right?" Sora smiled to the dismay of everyone, while Kurami continued: "You knew that as long as you gave those memories to me, using the Oaths wasn't necessary anymore. Drawing me to be a companion, I'm really condescended." But as if having a mischievous face that pranked a child, Kurami leaked out a smile. "——okay, I accept it, it's very interesting isn't it——your [Plan]." Seeing her look, Fiel understood. Sora's intentions——share his memories, peep into Kurami's own, and letting it stay. He didn't need to use the Oaths and only needed to make a request——tampering the memories at the appropriate time.... Taking into account that it would affect the war against Eastern Union——or even the future in fact—— Obtaining all these conclusions, the elfen girl said: "I see.....I'll be frank——we've [Completely lost]." Jibril and Steph froze in place. The only other person who understood that was Shiro, who widened her eyes and said: ".....Nii....Amazing..." "Aren't I~? You can praise your capable Nii?" Sora playfully said. But Shiro who was still firmly buried in Sora's chest. "....Un....Nii is Shiro's proud.....Nii...." "Wuahh, for you to praise me so frankly, your brother will be embarrassed....Oh!" As if a string was cut, Sora fell on the ground with Shiro, apparently hit by fatigue. Steph and Jibril panicked and ran over, but Sora raised his hand and stopped them before saying: "——Shiro....It's almost time?" "...Un, ready....anytime." And Kurami held the elven girl's——Fiel's hand. "I'm sorry, Fiel.....I have to request something from you." "Nuuu, ah, okay, go ahead!" Sora, Shiro, Kurami the three of them took a deep breathe. "Wuahhhhh super~ scary ahhh I'm so sorry I won't do it again ahhh sorry Shiro~~!" "Wuuuu~......Guuuu......Guuuuu." "Wuaaaa~~~~~~~~Really———What exactly is that man~~~~~" The three of them stunned the crowd. Like kids who were repenting on their wrongdoings, they cried until they felt exhausted and slept—— Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter I don't understand why people complain about it! Actually today's 20 minutes covered the complete 1st chapter of volume 2 of the Light novel... I only posted the 5th and 6th part of chapter one.... believe me, a LOT of information was lost during todays episode. Well, we can only hope that Bluray version expands the episode. It was clearly visible that they tried their best to include as much as possible while keeping current and next episode cohesive. Apart from that... wow. Just wow. Now excuse me, gotta read 3rd novel... Don't forget to read the rest of volume 2 first... you need to know how and why the new companions will join Imanity. Edit: typo |
DarkMoonWolfJun 4, 2014 2:39 PM
Personal tastes are like peoples behinds, each one has its own, and only those who wants to find [...] will smell one another. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:34 PM
#135
@ Takuan Soho, Your argument about "going to a duck farm and complaining that it has ducks" isn't entirely accurate here. I don't care if the show is the most brainless of brainless ecchi, where the premise of a show is such that plot is discarded in favour of fan service (and I mean it literally here not the sexual connotation it has but literal pleasing of fans with action, or niche subject matter like cooking or a kind of sport) if you don't like the characters you'll be bored. It's that simple. Daimidaler is a perfect example of no story no character zero entertainment. Comparing Baby Steps and Ping Pong the Animation, both sport anime, it isn't hard to see that the latter series is more entertaining while the former seems to go through the motions of its genre (explanations, tournament, training etc) almost in a documentary style manner. The truth of the matter is characters carry a story. It isn't possible to have a story without characters and as such it isn't possible to have a strong story without strong characters. No Game No Life whisks away two gamers to a fantasy world. But because these two characters and the rest of the cast they meet aren't all that interesting the story itself is pretty weak. Hell this show has more in common with a sport anime what with episode to episode featuring lengthy explanations and silly battles you know the MCs will win. It just isn't exciting bar its cheap little thrills here and there and to say it isn't accurate to blame the characters because "the show is an ecchi comedy" is inaccurate. No matter what the genre is if you don't like the characters (because you can't identify with them) it's perfectly natural to not feel engaged. It's like happening upon a fight. Once the fight is over (or even before it's over) what are the first words out of your mouth? Aren't they "what happened?" And then when you've learnt for example that person A, a known philanderer, banged Person B's wife, whom Person B sunk his life savings into wooing and starting a life with, your understanding of the event you witnessed deepens and you feel...involved (because 1. Person B's wife is hot and you understand the appeal and 2. You understand how Person B feels and sympathize with him). It's only natural to want to identify with characters where stories are concerned. There's such a thing as "throwaway" entertainment, sure, but that never had good connotations. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:36 PM
#136
Kaioshin_Sama said: Takuan_Soho said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Don't take this the wrong way, but you don't really sound like a person showing a lot of confidence in this shows overall appeal. Still the approach to try to convince people by what more or less looks like making concessions as to where the show falls short and dropping expectation levels is an interesting one. If you can somehow make it work then that's pretty impressive I've gotta say. I'll just offer in the mean time that what if maybe just maybe the act of having to drop that expectation of strong characters in itself makes the show not particularly great for a lot of people. I mean not having strong characters to identify with and experience the show through.....that's a pretty big concession to make for some and can easily be the difference between good and mediocre or even poor. I hope you try to understand that as time goes forward. Don't take this the wrong way, I am not as "vested" in appeal as you are. I do not really care whether the show I like is popular or get so pissed when a show I hate is popular. Besides, I like the characters and had already pointed out your mistake above. This is going to sound cliche as fuck, but who are you really trying to convince with all of this hostility, you or me? You make it sound like you're already convinced of your absolute inherent and uncontestable and universal correctness every single time you go to interact with someone, but there's something that keeps nagging at me making me wonder if that's really the case and why it's so important that you win this grand argument you seem to feel you are involved in. Yes that's fine you like the characters, I and other people have a lot of problems with them though so again it comes down to different standards. Now you probably think it's a matter of people just watching it wrong or taking them the wrong way or whatever, but guess what, people are different and there's no right or wrong way to watch a show, just ones own way. You can't just force people to magically adopt a totally different context specific standard for a show and expect it to have the same effect for them I've always felt, it just cheapens the experience and the eventual end rating if you have to make concession after concession of your values and standards of quality just to arrive at a specific reaction or rating. Where's the genuine appreciation in that? It's a shame you can't grasp this and be able to empathize with other viewers. In every interaction I've had with you or seen with others in this thread you never actually seem to make any sort of real attempt to have a pleasant normal discussion with others or share ideas with them so much as force it on them and act indignant when people don't just arbitrarily agree with you. People have been trying to tell you for weeks now that you are your own worst enemy when it comes to these situations and don't do the show or it's fanbase any favor with the type of behavior you show with the just anti-social, hostile and closed-minded approach to discussing it. I honestly feel at this point that if you didn't absolutely force yourself on people and into direct bitter contention with them every single time you see a post that doesn't exactly conform to your specific views on how to watch and react to this show that nobody would have any reason to pay attention to you anymore. It's pretty ridiculous and pointless man, like I don't feel like being hostile or critical of you on a personal level cause I feel that sort of thing inevitably leads nowhere in the long run and I'd hope it's the same with other people, but you practically give people no choice with your behavior. Very "bad manner" as they would say in a lot of online gaming circles. Anyway it's a good thing this show is starting to see a lot more reasonable posters on both sides of the fence who aren't either ridiculously passive aggressive over it or super hostile and trolling towards the show cause frankly it's not worth it. As I understand it some people who are fans of the show also feel like the adaptation of the source wasn't as on point as usual this week. It might be off topic but I'm curious to hear more on that front as things go forward. Oh look it's you - again. Even I am beginning to wonder what kind of person are you to come on the threads of this anime, attack it and it's watchers again and again, get presented with valid arguments and ignore them or answer with a rant about us attacking you or some "opinion police" that you perceived as your mortal enemies and even after all that still come back? My fellow human, if you have any dignity and respect for yourself and other humans left, I urge you to leave us in peace with no more obnoxious and repetitive comments which do nothing but seed hatred. Your comments have clearly shown that you don't like NGNL, nor judging from the scores on your anime list, any similar show so I see no need for you to come here just to post walls of text spreading hatred towards you (are you some sort of "M" so you want to be hated and attacked). As for the part about a specific standard for each show I pretty much do that with everything in my life. From history books (actual Books written by historians not that usually politically influenced crap in textbooks of most countries) to a turn-based strategy about ruling a Civilization, everything I try my best to observe from a clear unbased point without any expectations, that is why I pretty much dwell in subjects from History & Geography to video games & Anime. AKA I am almost as open minded as possible and I'm trying to always be even more open minded allowing myself to enjoy so many different things. So if you think that it is not possible to align views for each show accordingly to the idea and style of the show I think both me and a lot of people can do it. My record of highly enjoyed read/watched/played works from down right scientific to complete nonsensical ones proves that I can do it. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:42 PM
#137
Jun 4, 2014 2:46 PM
#138
Probably one of the best episodes yet. Man, what a game that was. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:56 PM
#139
DarkMoonWolf said: Aurioch said: Well, we can only hope that Bluray version expands the episode. It was clearly visible that they tried their best to include as much as possible while keeping current and next episode cohesive. Apart from that... wow. Just wow. Now excuse me, gotta read 3rd novel... Don't forget to read the rest of volume 2 first... you need to know how and why the new companions will join Imanity. Well, if the translation of Baka-Tsuki is complete, I already did it (it ends with ep8, right?) ^^ Volume 1 as well. I simply couldn't resist X) |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Jun 4, 2014 2:56 PM
#140
* Yahzee, Wow you're so right! Silly me! Of course anime isn't real life! Um, there's just the little problem of anime being a form of art and the fact that the whole point of art is to emulate (copy) (real) life... There's also the small problem that anime emulates real life so well that some people, REAL PEOPLE, do things like date, wank to and even celebrate the birthdays of fictional characters. So yeah, I'm not sure your argument is a very strong one. Of course it isn't real life. It borrows heavily from it, though, hence my hypothetical scenario of dull OP always winning game players being uninteresting BOTH in anime and real life. |
Jun 4, 2014 3:01 PM
#141
The pace slowed a little bit down in this episode, and had to stretch my imagination to connect stuff (I haven't read the LN). Overall though it was a great episode, loved the tiny back story we got and loved how to colors changed when the game ended. Man I love all the colors that they use, simply beautiful. |
Jun 4, 2014 3:05 PM
#142
Damn, I was far from the truth with all my guesses. Stop playing with my emotion NGNL!! Sora was kinda lucky since they didn't what part of their existances would be lost during the game, it could have gone in a lot of ways. Sora always give so much evil looks, but in the end, he's softer than a teddy bear :3 |
«Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
Jun 4, 2014 3:08 PM
#143
Jun 4, 2014 3:08 PM
#144
ollythirteen said: @ Takuan Soho, Your argument about "going to a duck farm and complaining that it has ducks" isn't entirely accurate here. I don't care if the show is the most brainless of brainless ecchi, where the premise of a show is such that plot is discarded in favour of fan service (and I mean it literally here not the sexual connotation it has but literal pleasing of fans with action, or niche subject matter like cooking or a kind of sport) if you don't like the characters you'll be bored. It's that simple. Daimidaler is a perfect example of no story no character zero entertainment. Comparing Baby Steps and Ping Pong the Animation, both sport anime, it isn't hard to see that the latter series is more entertaining while the former seems to go through the motions of its genre (explanations, tournament, training etc) almost in a documentary style manner. The truth of the matter is characters carry a story. It isn't possible to have a story without characters and as such it isn't possible to have a strong story without strong characters. No Game No Life whisks away two gamers to a fantasy world. But because these two characters and the rest of the cast they meet aren't all that interesting the story itself is pretty weak. Hell this show has more in common with a sport anime what with episode to episode featuring lengthy explanations and silly battles you know the MCs will win. It just isn't exciting bar its cheap little thrills here and there and to say it isn't accurate to blame the characters because "the show is an ecchi comedy" is inaccurate. No matter what the genre is if you don't like the characters (because you can't identify with them) it's perfectly natural to not feel engaged. It's like happening upon a fight. Once the fight is over (or even before it's over) what are the first words out of your mouth? Aren't they "what happened?" And then when you've learnt for example that person A, a known philanderer, banged Person B's wife, whom Person B sunk his life savings into wooing and starting a life with, your understanding of the event you witnessed deepens and you feel...involved (because 1. Person B's wife is hot and you understand the appeal and 2. You understand how Person B feels and sympathize with him). It's only natural to want to identify with characters where stories are concerned. There's such a thing as "throwaway" entertainment, sure, but that never had good connotations. It is a bit ironic that now the ones who dislike the show dislike it for the reason I like it. Just some episodes away everyone was going on about how this was wish fulfillment for NEETs and shut-ins, to which I strongly countered that it can't be wish fulfillment because you have characters that you can't indentify with (to which btw people referred as nonsense). Now everyone goes about the reason I said this was a risky move by the author because it can make people hate his characters to which I was responded that that was no risky move at all... You know sth, you guys are slow. Now why I love this anime/LN for it: Because it is sth new! Why do we always need characters one can identify with? They are not comedic villians or sth like that but still they are people who grasp every chance they can get and forget everyone else; just like most of the people in RL do... The very concept that you NEED to identify with characters in a story is nonsense; the less you identify with them the less you get into their pace and the more you want to distance yourself from them, and where exactly stands that this is a bad thing? |
Jun 4, 2014 3:10 PM
#145
Aurioch said: DarkMoonWolf said: Don't forget to read the rest of volume 2 first... you need to know how and why the new companions will join Imanity. Well, if the translation of Baka-Tsuki is complete, I already did it (it ends with ep8, right?) ^^ Volume 1 as well. I simply couldn't resist X) You are absolutely right!! Sorry I mistakenly said volume 2 when I should have said volume 3. Mea culpa!! Anyway, please add that to your manga/novel list... It's easier to find out what you read before. Also to answer your question: Volume 3 - A Half of the Gamer Siblings Seems to Have Disappeared...? * Chapter 1 - Sky Walk/Disassociation Method (todays episode) * Chapter 2 - Blue Rose/Directional Method * Chapter 3 - Killing Giant/Guiding Method * Chapter 4 - Rule Number 10/Convergence Method * True End |
DarkMoonWolfJun 4, 2014 3:15 PM
Personal tastes are like peoples behinds, each one has its own, and only those who wants to find [...] will smell one another. |
Jun 4, 2014 3:13 PM
#146
ollythirteen said: Daimidaler is a perfect example of no story no character zero entertainment. Daimidaler has both character and story, it's a parody of "hot blooded/school robot series". It may not be to one's taste, or it may not be particularly well told, but it most certainly has character and story, and imo is entertaining for a borderline hentai series. ollythirteen said: Comparing Baby Steps and Ping Pong the Animation, both sport anime, it isn't hard to see that the latter series is more entertaining while the former seems to go through the motions of its genre (explanations, tournament, training etc) almost in a documentary style manner. Perhaps not your best example in context of your comment about OP's that don't lose games, in that Smile has to date always won (except for when he quit playing) and in Baby Steps the lead player has lost. That said, I would agree that Ping Pong is more entertaining than Baby Steps as an animation, but that is less to do with the story, and more to do with the edgy style of Ping Pong and the fact that the appeal of Baby Steps is the slow methodical improvement that the player has, which the animation cannot capture). ollythirteen said: The truth of the matter is characters carry a story. It isn't possible to have a story without characters and as such it isn't possible to have a strong story without strong characters. Fans of HP Lovecraft would say you are wrong. Horror doesn't need strong characters, neither do certain types of SF or Fantasy. ollythirteen said: Hell this show has more in common with a sport anime what with episode to episode featuring lengthy explanations and silly battles you know the MCs will win. You don't watch too many sports animation do you? Besides as someone else pointed out there are plenty of suspenseful sports animations where the MC doesn't lose. Yawara would be another series you could add, and I would include Saki and Girls Und Panzer as two enjoyable shows where you know the ultimate victory, but still watch because you are enjoying HOW they do it. One could say that Sherlock Holmes stories are dull because we always know that he will "solve" the crime (and yes, I know that there are 1 or 2 he didn't) ollythirteen said: No matter what the genre is if you don't like the characters (because you can't identify with them) it's perfectly natural to not feel engaged. I think you are missing the main point. The siblings were NOT supposed to be likeable. Calling them "neets" and "hikkomori" was not meant to make them sympathetic. They made this clear during the opening when the girl they beat in the video game was drooling on about "how cool they must be", and the next words shown were "unfortunately reality is never like that" (or something to that effect). The siblings are supposed to be unlikeable and then slowly become more likeable (for instance when Sora tries his best to find a reason to justify what Steph's father did, or Shiro this episode really missing her brother and both being happy to be reunited). Plenty of posts on this thread (and the father thread) from other people said how touching they found those scenes. Do all those people's opinions not matter? |
Takuan_SohoJun 4, 2014 3:18 PM
Jun 4, 2014 3:16 PM
#147
ollythirteen said: * Yahzee, Wow you're so right! Silly me! Of course anime isn't real life! Um, there's just the little problem of anime being a form of art and the fact that the whole point of art is to emulate (copy) (real) life... There's also the small problem that anime emulates real life so well that some people, REAL PEOPLE, do things like date, wank to and even celebrate the birthdays of fictional characters. So yeah, I'm not sure your argument is a very strong one. Of course it isn't real life. It borrows heavily from it, though, hence my hypothetical scenario of dull OP always winning game players being uninteresting BOTH in anime and real life. I wouldn't say that the WHOLE point of art is to emulate real life. Isn't art a form of expression from it's creator? Something to show an idea or perhaps produce emotion? Surely you've seen some forms of art that hardly emulate real life by your grand "definition". And you're definitely quite alone on your opinion regarding winning people in real life are boring. Are you kidding me? Name me one type of winning game/winning sport team that isn't popular. Floyd Mayweather hasn't lost a boxing match, yet somehow A LOT of people keep watching him. The Miami Heat could very well be doing a 3-peat, and the New York Yankees are one of the most celebrated teams of all time, both are incredibly winning organizations. Sorry to say, but I don't see the connection you're making with "winning people in this show and winning people in real life are boring." So, "silly me" for me bringing up an OBVIOUS fact, that you still fail to see. Edit: You're entirely entitled to your own opinion, I'm not trying to convince you to like the show, I actually agree that the MC is fairly one dimensional. But when you post your own opinion with that kind of bashful mentality, what kind of responses do you think you're going to get? |
yahzeeJun 4, 2014 3:29 PM
Jun 4, 2014 3:18 PM
#148
EPIC and mind-blowing. I can't pull story like this from hat. If You don't like go watch other thing You like. I didn't read LN but try cram a 25 min show and put in all that maters for people and for makers to go on. If you can do better hats off if not STFU! 10/10 madhouse rules! |
Jun 4, 2014 3:19 PM
#149
so much walls of text the ep was good but it was too short for me (maybe just for me) hope for an epic game against the werebeast |
Jun 4, 2014 3:20 PM
#150
This could've gone awfully, but it turned out great! |
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