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Aug 5, 2009 3:03 PM
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Another great episode. Sode no Shiraiyuki's already my favorite because not only is she graceful and refined, but she just showed Rukia that she could be a potential powerhouse if she really focused. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that this'll be one of the arc's main themes; that the zanpakuto's are gonna show the shinigami the proper way of utilizing their strengths, and that they resent them for their failures to harness it.

I guess the reason why Zaraki Kenpachi isn't in because he's probably going to come and fuck everyones shit up..I mean, he is the only one who doesn't rely on his zanpakuto

Heck, I can see that his zanpakto probably reject the offer to get materialized because he know he will got owned in no time.
Aug 5, 2009 3:15 PM

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I can't believe they just up and left. Demonstration of power maybe but then to go hide in that cave they were originally in doesn't make much sense to me.

Comfy furniture in seretei > solid rock with guano spatterings.
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Aug 5, 2009 3:41 PM

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I would love if someone would show which Zanpakutou is whos. >.<
Aug 5, 2009 3:46 PM

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What did Sode no Shiraiyuki do that was so special? I mean, she did the little ice clone and that was cool, but considering she doesn't have a bankai, I think Rukia's doing a pretty good job controlling her.
Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM

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The only problem with the episode was Rukia, always being saved as the demsel in distress she is really annoying and stubborn. I hope they kill her off in this filler lol. As for the episode, the first ep was better as they introduced it very well. The flashback type of story telling was a good idea in my opinion. Intrigued by the next episode. Filler looking good, but if they start just overdoing it then we will see something worse than the Bount. Does anyone reckon as it will be a year long they will have this last for 26 eps, then they may make another different one!

P.S great to finally see Ichigo's sword on his back now, I missed that as in Hueco Mundo he always kept in Bankai, even when he was near death which did not make any sense, atleast revert back into the original form due to the power loss.
Aug 5, 2009 4:24 PM
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And I thought, that Byakuya`s sword was the leader of Zanpaktous... Even his handling of the sword was the same, but Senbonsakura appeared later... So we still don`t know, who is this Muramasa :)
Aug 5, 2009 4:43 PM

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i really wanna see yachiru's zanpakutou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 5, 2009 4:58 PM

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Is it just me or are the Shinigami kinda pathetic without their Zanpakutous? It's crazy seeing Seireitei all demolished like that. And what's up with Bykuya? Last I checked, he was the master of flash-step (after Yoruichi of course), but he was moving daaaaaamn slow when he ran from Senbonzakura. He totally could've escaped that attack.

All in all, I'm not minding this filler. It's good, yes, but I still miss the old storyline. Though I do understand we need to allow some time for the manga to progress, since the anime's damn near caught up.
Aug 5, 2009 6:55 PM

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Woa, did this just turn into another 'save Rukia' arc? XDDD
I love it! :D Sodeno Shirayuki is so cool.


Aug 5, 2009 7:12 PM
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As for Rukia always getting saved, how many stories have you seen where the Heroine in the story is a real heroine who didn't need to be backed up by another character? Rukia isn't the only female character who gets 'rescued'. Tatsuki, who is supposed to be strong, has to be rescued by Orihime, who can only attack hollows and who is rather pitiful... appologies to those who don't like her being called that. Soifon is always nearly backed up by Yorichi, and the one time I remember her not being so, she was out of action for the rest of the bount arc. Ururu is mondo strong, but because of her naivity, she has to be rescued. Senna sacrificed herself. There are more and more examples... And I am female...

I wonder if the guy brainwashed the zampaktuo or did some kind of threat. Hyrinmaru was one of the last ones to be gained to his side, yet he seems as of this episode, the most loyal. It also seemed last episode that he was trying to tell Hitsugaya something, but couldn't. These ones, I think would be easy to convince... I'm going by character names of the Shingami... Matsumoto, Momo, Izuru, Byakuya (because he is a control freak), Hisagi, Ikkaku, Yamuchika, Rukia (because she has confidence problems), Myaori. These ones would be harder... Hitsugaya, Ukitake, captain of the eighth division... I can't spell his name worth beans, Unohana. Others I am not so sure about... appologies for misspelling, not my forte. This is just theoretical.

As for theories of what he could do to convince the zampaktuo to turn on a shingami they respect so much. I think all he has to do is threaten the life, or threaten to also seal their shingami partner if they do not obey. And I think that for some of them, this would be threat enough.
Aug 5, 2009 7:19 PM
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ChronosXIII said:


I'm really looking forward to seeing Zangetsu materialize and fight alongside Ichigo, if that is at all possible.



That would be interesting...

I actually like flashback parts but annoyed with Rukia coming to real world to tell everyone what happened, Renji could come also I guess... but Byakuya is the one lost so can't complain about that, also Ichigo may have gone to soul society to save Rukia but all the shinigami there so he went to help everyone...

About Kenpachi, I think he won't appear soon, I think he will show up at the most crucial moment or so...
Aug 5, 2009 7:40 PM
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i really like this filler..i think it has the potencial to be better thatn the real storyline.

also, i actually belive that kenpachi's zanpaktou will show, if you see the ED there is a short part in witch they show a woman that has a skull on her head and an eyepatch...who wears an eyepatch?, who shows a skull when releases his power?

and yeah ichigo fighting alongside Zangetsu would be awesome
Aug 5, 2009 8:47 PM

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Danixo said:


also, i actually belive that kenpachi's zanpaktou will show, if you see the ED there is a short part in witch they show a woman that has a skull on her head and an eyepatch...who wears an eyepatch?, who shows a skull when releases his power?


I'm afraid you incorrect about that being Kenpachi's zanpaktou the woman who wears the eyepatch is Shunsui Kyōraku zanpaktou (8th Division Captain)





Aug 6, 2009 2:11 AM

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If anything, this is going more in the direction of a "save Byakuya" arc than "save Rukia". Besides, any excuse to get Ichigo in there asap and keep the fast tempo of the story is good enough for me. Even if it involves my favourite character acting completely stupid.
Anyways, what I really liked about this episode was that everyone attacked the enemies at random. I expected every single fight would be strictly between the wielder and the weapon so that was a welcome surprise.
Aug 6, 2009 2:18 AM

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i love this arc it rocks...
Aug 6, 2009 5:09 AM
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Mammoth said:
If anything, this is going more in the direction of a "save Byakuya" arc than "save Rukia". Besides, any excuse to get Ichigo in there asap and keep the fast tempo of the story is good enough for me. Even if it involves my favourite character acting completely stupid.
Anyways, what I really liked about this episode was that everyone attacked the enemies at random. I expected every single fight would be strictly between the wielder and the weapon so that was a welcome surprise.

The "randomness" is what would really happen in this type of situation. This is what was supposed to happen with the Karakura "war" arc in the manga, but that failed miserably (in that sense). So, you're right that it was quite refreshing to see.
Especially since they have characters like Kazeshini who doesn't seem like he would wait around for a proper 1v1.

I agree with you too on it's not going to be a "Save Rukia" arc. Mostly becuase, if this WAS about that, then the final boss would be Sode no Shirayuki, correct? Which means Ichigo would fight through lesser guys for about 20 episodes before getting to her to fight her. In this case, in seems Ichigo already fights her NEXT EPISODE. Thus, I think this is just a short few episode arc and will move on quickly to the next.
Aug 6, 2009 5:44 AM

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This arc seems interesting ^^ look forward to the next episode


Aug 6, 2009 6:40 AM

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Mammoth said:
If anything, this is going more in the direction of a "save Byakuya" arc than "save Rukia"..


though it's still some kind of "save kuchiki".

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i love this arc it rocks...


me2. imo this arc gives u a lot of the orignial bleach feeling. until now this arc is superior to all the other arcs. damnit I mean its even better than the main story which is stuck...
Yakumo_FujiiAug 6, 2009 6:49 AM
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Seems like a pretty interesting filler arc. I was just going to skip it until it got back on track but I might watch a few of these and see how it goes...
Aug 6, 2009 6:58 AM

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AddictedToAnime said:
Danixo said:


also, i actually belive that kenpachi's zanpaktou will show, if you see the ED there is a short part in witch they show a woman that has a skull on her head and an eyepatch...who wears an eyepatch?, who shows a skull when releases his power?


I'm afraid you incorrect about that being Kenpachi's zanpaktou the woman who wears the eyepatch is Shunsui Kyōraku zanpaktou (8th Division Captain)


I'm thinking Kenpachi's zanpakutou is actually the leader of the bunch (Muramasa?). The motive is there; Kenpachi has never even bothered to find out his name, so he has good reason to be pissed. I think the other shinigami have enough respect for their zanpakutou that none of them would have the motive to actually start a rebellion (though they all join in).
AikaHimeAug 6, 2009 7:10 AM
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I am really enjoying the direction Bleach last taken since last week. There is soooo much speculation about Muramasa and what's going to happen at the end of this Arc (Ichigo will most probably save the day).

I don't want Ichi to save Seireitei this time. They need to save themselves. They have taken for granted that their zanpaktous have needs outside those of their masters, something their masters seem to have forgotten because their zanpaktou's are borne from their souls and couldn't possible have needs (sarcasm). In my opinion, they were easily swayed by Muramasa because of this.

My guess is the Capatain Commander like Ichigo understand this and treat their zankaptous not as servants but as partners with whom they can grow strong with.
anjelAug 6, 2009 7:04 AM
Aug 6, 2009 8:25 AM

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Nice epi, this arc can be interesting..
Aug 6, 2009 8:41 AM

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Ok, I just would like to clear some things up about that "Saving Rukia again arc"...

1. I don't really understang why are you so worked up on things that haven't even happened? Are you guys fortune tellers or something? There is no point being upset things like this after 2 episodes. Complain after the end of the arc and stop pissing me of.

2. Maybe I screwed up things, but what's with that "again"? Maybe I'm wrong, but if I remember correctly, there were only one arc concentrating on saving Rukia and the third film, but that doesn't matter. So I don't know what's the problem...

And about Zaraki: I think there is no point revealing his Zanpaktou's identity. Maybe KT is planning to introduce it later on, so that's why they aren't in this arc. Why is everyone think that he'll save the day?

Anyway, I liked the episode, the animation was great again, but I keep being pessimistic till the end and continoue watching...
I think Byakuya was a little confused, being attacked by his own Zanpaktou, so that's why he was that slow...
Aug 6, 2009 8:55 AM

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sayami said:

And about Zaraki: I think there is no point revealing his Zanpaktou's identity. Maybe KT is planning to introduce it later on, so that's why they aren't in this arc. Why is everyone think that he'll save the day?


Well, think about it, he's the only shinigami out of the Gotei 13 who doesn't use Shikai or Bankai. Every other shinigami is severely handicapped without their zanpakutou. But for Kenpachi it doesn't matter whether is zanpakutou revolts, he has no relationship with it, his tremendous reiatsu is purely his own.

So it makes perfect sense that at the end of the arc he's going to swoop in and help Ichigo kick some zanpakutou ass.
Aug 6, 2009 9:14 AM
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Another problem people might have with Ichigo being the savior for this arc, is that it makes this arc simply an exaggerated version of the final fight in the Amagai Shusuke arc, where Ichigo had to fight him because he sealed everyone else's powers away.

Here's to hoping he only does a LITTLE bit of saving, like, maybe the Kuchiki's, and thats it.
Aug 6, 2009 9:45 AM

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Sayuri-Hime said:


Well, think about it, he's the only shinigami out of the Gotei 13 who doesn't use Shikai or Bankai. Every other shinigami is severely handicapped without their zanpakutou. But for Kenpachi it doesn't matter whether is zanpakutou revolts, he has no relationship with it, his tremendous reiatsu is purely his own.

So it makes perfect sense that at the end of the arc he's going to swoop in and help Ichigo kick some zanpakutou ass.


Well, that might be true, thanks the explanation...
Aug 6, 2009 11:06 AM

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PsychFreak said:
Heck, I can see that his [Kenpachi's] zanpakto probably reject the offer to get materialized because he know he will got owned in no time.


Rofl, I laughed so hard when I read this.
Aug 6, 2009 12:17 PM

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Mammoth said:
If anything, this is going more in the direction of a "save Byakuya" arc than "save Rukia". .


From the start hasn't this been a save the captain commander arc?
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Aug 6, 2009 12:19 PM

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Good episode, looking forward to next weeks.
Aug 6, 2009 12:58 PM

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Mammoth said:
From the start hasn't this been a save the captain commander arc?
It seemed that way to me. The "Save Rukia" thing never lasts... she is in distress, then saved and then on the sidelines recovering, then she joins the battle. Same shit, different day.

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Aug 6, 2009 1:50 PM

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Sayuri-Hime said:
AddictedToAnime said:
Danixo said:


also, i actually belive that kenpachi's zanpaktou will show, if you see the ED there is a short part in witch they show a woman that has a skull on her head and an eyepatch...who wears an eyepatch?, who shows a skull when releases his power?


I'm afraid you incorrect about that being Kenpachi's zanpaktou the woman who wears the eyepatch is Shunsui Kyōraku zanpaktou (8th Division Captain)


I'm thinking Kenpachi's zanpakutou is actually the leader of the bunch (Muramasa?). The motive is there; Kenpachi has never even bothered to find out his name, so he has good reason to be pissed. I think the other shinigami have enough respect for their zanpakutou that none of them would have the motive to actually start a rebellion (though they all join in).


i'm actually interested on how this zanpaktou rebellion will end are all the zanpaktous are just going to say "you know we were just kidding about the whole rebelling against you guys right?"





Aug 6, 2009 5:21 PM

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Muramasa is probably controlling them. I don't see any way a cute little girl like Tobiume, who even worries about Hinamori would turn against the shinigami so easily on her own. So once Ichigo kills Muramasa, everything's gonna be fine. I agree that such a revolt should have massive consequences but I have a feeling that after the climactic battle, they'll just try to wrap everything up as fast as possible.
Aug 7, 2009 5:03 AM

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I really like this filler arc, it takes me back to the old days of bleach. How can i say this, the general feeling i get by watching it is darker, much darker as in recent episodes of the main story, and because of this dark nostalgic felling i can not help but love this filler arc.
Aug 7, 2009 5:57 AM

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You know it's filler time when they roll out Cloud, Nova and Rin-Rin. They always go for more flamboyant characters with each and every filler arc but they end up all looking the same...and of course all the women have giant boobs keeping with Kubo's style XD
Aug 7, 2009 7:26 AM

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quite good
"just take it easy xD"
Aug 7, 2009 7:37 AM

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Zell182 said:
You know it's filler time when they roll out Cloud, Nova and Rin-Rin.


Yeah, Cloud and Rin-Rin annoy the hell out of me. Nova's not so bad, but then, he never talks.
Aug 7, 2009 11:08 AM

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The pace was somewhat slow, I mean having flashbacks from the previous episode! :P
Aug 7, 2009 8:23 PM
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230 was so good that this episode just pales in comparison.
Aug 7, 2009 8:49 PM

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I loled that ichigo's sword just magically wraped it self. How awesome.
Aug 7, 2009 9:36 PM

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Their excuse for leaving out kenpachi in this arc is pretty weak... "my captain and vice-captain just went off on their own, they do it all the time!" says ikkaku...
So, hopefully kenpachi does show up though it's looking highly unlikely. (Sigh, he's my 2nd fav character too.)

Good premise, weak execution so far for this filler arc... which is still better than any other of the stupid fillers before it.

And is it just me, or have we already seen the materialization of zabimaru? wasn't it a gorilla with a snake for it's tail?



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Their excuse for leaving out kenpachi in this arc is pretty weak... "my captain and vice-captain just went off on their own, they do it all the time!" says ikkaku...
So, hopefully kenpachi does show up though it's looking highly unlikely. (Sigh, he's my 2nd fav character too.)

Good premise, weak execution so far for this filler arc... which is still better than any other of the stupid fillers before it.

And is it just me, or have we already seen the materialization of zabimaru? wasn't it a gorilla with a snake for it's tail?

Kenpachi should probably show up. He has a rather...unique relationship with his zanpakuto. There's bound to be some way to use it as a plot device.
As for Zabimaru, this happened in an omake chapter and it's apparently canon now:

I have no idea why Hyorinmaru's a human now, though. I guess some have multiple forms. Or maybe it has something to do with the second Hyorinmaru from the movie. I wonder if they'll bring that up.
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i'm liking this filler, it seems pretty interesting. also the new ending is prety cool.

what do you think happened to byakuya?? i wonder what he's up to this time.
Aug 9, 2009 5:14 PM

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Horrible!!!
Aug 9, 2009 8:51 PM
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And now its back to boring old Ichigo and co.
With bonus mod souls.
At least the manga doesn't feature them currently, but then again you can read it in less than a minute
Aug 10, 2009 6:39 AM
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Mammoth said:

I have no idea why Hyorinmaru's a human now, though. I guess some have multiple forms. Or maybe it has something to do with the second Hyorinmaru from the movie. I wonder if they'll bring that up.

Unfortunately, the physical manifestations of the Zanpaktou's in this arc aren't the *real* form of them. These are all humanoid forms so its easier for everyone. Being a giant ice dragon is certainly less convenient than a human form for a number of reasons.
This would also explain why Komamura and Byakuya didn't recognize their Zankpaktou's at first glance.
Aug 10, 2009 7:12 AM

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I'm really interested what happened to byakuya. Hmm..do they need him and rukia for some sort of ritual sacrifice (j/k!). Seriously see how sode no shirayuki is very determined with kidnapping rukia, while the other zanpakutou left the others fairly intact.
Aug 11, 2009 1:03 PM
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the only thing i dont like about fillers is that they interupt the normal plot of the story, i thought this filler would suck btut actually , i cant wait to see everyone fighting there own zanpakuto ( especially mayuri)


Aug 11, 2009 1:17 PM
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the title of episode 233 is "zangetsu becomes an enemy", I am really dissappointed with this... I was nearly sure that zangetsu won't become an enemy...

by the way the good part of fillers is that you can wait not knowing what is going to happen, but with the actual plot, I feel that way only with the manga, which has less content for bleach than the other series, so it's not really exciting...
Aug 11, 2009 4:27 PM

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It could be a bluff and Zangetsu will be stopped in the last second. But then again, it makes sense. With bankai and hollow powers, Ichigo is miles above everyone else and this story seems to be all about the character development so we can't have him stealing the spotlight. Besides, he'll need a new rival for this arc and who could be more appropriate than Zangetsu?
But what I'm really interested in is how this will affect the inner holllow.
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weak episode! still think it is stupid that the zanpakuto got together in a place to plan a revolution against the shinigami, when they are suppose to be inside their wielders iinner self... but ok
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